3-Headed Frog Found - Frog Also Has Six Legs (Near leaky Nuke plant)

[p8ntball1016]

http://www.local6.com/news/2900371/detail.html

http://www.nuclearfiles.org/hitimeline/nwa/70/1971.html

(scroll down - it's the same county. Remember the half life of Strontium 90 is about 30 years)

Excerpt:

Hinkley Point, Somerset, England
A former welder, who later became a local councilor in the Safety Liaison Committee of Hinkley Point Nuclear Power station in Somerset, England, alleged that some of the pipe repairs were not properly made on the instruction of his superiors trying to cave work. He also claimed that X-Rays of good welds were used to cover the deception. The events happened in 1971 and are under "very thorough and urgent investigation" by the Central Electricity Generating Board (CEGB) after instruction from the Nuclear Installations Inspectorate (NIII). (The Guardian, 25/2/87, WISE NC 269 27/2/87 p.10)

See also this brief report by Greenpeace: "1985 Accidental radioactive release into the sea from Hinkley Point nuclear power plant (at Somerset, UK) at:

http://archive.greenpeace.org/comms/97/nuclear/reactor/calendar/standard/cal_oct.html

[1stdeadeye]

The French would love these. Look at all those Frog legs, ymmy!

[-Carnifex-]

Do you know how old news this is?

[Koosh]

The date on the article says March 5th 2004, so I'm guessing not that old...

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

The french would be in heaven if they mutated a giant snail as well

[m-98]

How, is that thing even alive? Also, does each head have a brain because if it did that frog would be very confused.

[-Carnifex-]

Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh
The date on the article says March 5th 2004, so I'm guessing not that old...

No, mutated frogs due to enviromental issues is very, very old news.

[tony3]

Suicide bombers on buses in Israel are old, that doesn't mean they still aren't on the news...

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by tony3
Suicide bombers on buses in Israel are old, that doesn't mean they still aren't on the news...

Well actually today, they were suicide jeeps. The good news is they only blew themselves up!

[cphilip]

OK lets see... I so confused now at your three links of three seperate things I cannot even put them together...

Fact... frogs embryo's mutate very easy. So much so they often used to demo that. Even physical distubances can cause and do cause odd things. They can be physicaly hacked apart and joined with the crudest of intruments and still develope and survive.


Then you mention Strontium 90. Why? Its not even in any of the frog story at all. The mention of ONE of the things that can cause mutations is raditocativity. Not only that but the world is bombarded every day with it. From the Sun and Universe. And then there is Chemicals and such. So what is the point of mentioning the half life of Strontium? Its a half life now so I assume you know what that means? That means the time it takes to decay to half its current engergy. But still I fail to see the connection.

Then you mention Leaking pipe welds. From what? Cooling water? Would that be primary cooling. Did it even leak or was there just a welder that claimed fraud to get elected. Notice the Gardian is the scource of that? Cooling water does not contain Strontium by the way... it might contain Tritium and Carbon 14. Both extremely low energy particles that have difficulty penetrating anything. Although can be ingested and build up in the bone. Ingestion is the issue there. And in the case of gas releases the issue is Iodine. But none of those cases linked mention even that ever occuring.


So really I have no idea what you point here was. A frog mutated. They do so every day. Even in the most pristene environments they do this. Things have mutated for thousands of years. Thats how we came about.

Fact is Neuclear power has proven to be safer and less damaging to the earth than any other scource of engery. ALL the units in the whole world so far has harmed the surface of the earth less than building one Power Dam or Operation one Coal or Gas fired plant. Its impact is less than any ones single one of those in its entirety! Just because its a mystery and is used as a weapon does not mean its not safe. The biggest issue with it is how to deal with wastes. However those too could be managed better had we put an effort to it. So can the plants. No reason to be scared of it. Deal with it. Its the future of the life on earth to move away from Hydrological, Gas, Oil and Coal as fuels. Its damaging the Frogs more than anything else! And its dirty and running out! Fact is the entire universe is a Neuclear Reaction. And its a normal part of life. Not something we made up. Just something we are understanding is all.

[FalconGuy016]

Thats a good argument Cphil and I agree with nuclear power all the way. To put blame on nuclear plants is going too far and blowing things out of proportion. You can beat the idea of nuclear weapons to hell and have reasons and support, but anyone who attacks nuclear power isnt well informed, or stupid. I dont like either

Is nuclear spelled... nueclear?

[p8ntball1016]

Harmed less than all of the other plants together? Are you taking Chernobyl into account or not?

[Lethargic]

Chernobyl is one incident. A LOT more damage is done by the millions of cars drving us to work everyday than by Chernobyl. If you add up the cubic tons of crap coming out of every oil, coal, or gas burning plant across the country, Chernobly is just a drop in the bucket. Not only that, but Chernobyl was worsened by the Soviets refusing to admit to having a problem or asking for Western aid. Pride made the problem much worse than it could have been.

I personally think nuclear power will end up saving us all once the general public realizes that fossil fuels are going to run out, and electric cars don't solve any problems.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by p8ntball1016
Harmed less than all of the other plants together? Are you taking Chernobyl into account or not?

Oh yea.... Even with that included! Way more. WAY MORE. One dammed major river. One coal fired Energy plant... just one. So whats you point? Of all that stuff you listed? You not certain now you even had one? I am fairly certain you didn't or were just adding two and two together and coming up with three. As in three headed frog!


LOL.... no... Neuclear...Nukalar...Nukkie... erp... Sorry about that.

By the way. Radiation from Bombs not included. Peacefull energy uses is the point...

Mutations have occured all the days of the Earth from the big bang or whatever you believe caused the Universe. And continue today.

Another tid bit. C14 has a extremely long half life. Something like 14000 years if I recall correctly. I would have to look it up to be sure but... no matter for this part. And Tritium is even longer. Generaly the lower the energy the slower the decay so the longer the half life and the less energy it has to penetrate. And its commonly accepted that a Isotope has to go through 10 half lifes to be considered minimal (or gone). Think of it this way. A MilliCurie of C14 will be a Half Millicurie after one half life. Then after another half life it will be 1/4 MilliCurie... And then another half life and its 1/8.... and so on...

Now for an opposite example... A Neutron is a HUGE partical but its rapidly decaying. However it will penitrate anything when its given off. It comes from Space and goes right through the earth passing through anything in its path. Its stopped for nothing. Not many of them but they do a lot of damage. If you produce something that sheds a lot of them you really got a mess. A quick but highly damaging mess.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Lethargic
Chernobyl is one incident.

And its an example of a type of reactor that should never be built. Its a Graphite reactor. Graphite burns. Its cheap to build but inherently unsafe. Not to mention all the stupid mistakes made to allow the core to melt through the containment into the Graphite Base. Mistake after mistake. Similar accidents have occured but were contained. All the result of mistakes and mistakes and mistakes. All learned from and should be headed. All part of the learning process. Its no wonder we as a world should worry about the construction of these plants in the first place. Many done shoddily and cheaply. They must be built right. And thats not cheap. The Russians dumped more crap into their environment other than and including radioactivity directly and without any regard for thier environment during the cold war than probably has ever been dumped any place on earth ever. What they did is nothing short of criminal and a total disregard for thier peoples welfare. There are lakes there so radioactive that if you walk up to them you will be dead before you can walk back. However still MANY miles of pristene territory even still! Russia is a mess waiting to be delt with. Tragic.