A divider, not a uniter?

[Albinonewt]

Listen, I'm all for campaign tricks and slogans, I really am. But is Kerry done with this "Divider not a uniter" nonsense yet? I mean it doesn't make sense. Not EVERY person agrees on anything ever. There are like 300,000,000 of us, does Kerry honestly believe that he has the policy set that we'll ALL agree on? No, of course he doesn't. Such a policy would be so vague it would be meaningless, such as "we now agree that we will always do the best thing". STUPID!

Now, I get him blasting Bush on the war, on pre-emption, the economy, and things like that. I think Kerry is wrong, but those are valid policy complaints and the truth/ignorance of his statements will come out in the course of debate.

But this "not a uniter" junk has got to go.


If nothing else, do it for..................





.............The children!

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Indeed its a crappy slogan, but I think Bush using 9/11 in any sort of way is worse then Kerry's slogan.

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
Indeed its a crappy slogan, but I think Bush using 9/11 in any sort of way is worse then Kerry's slogan.

Nonsense.

First, Kerry's own fliers and mailing include 9/11 as well.

And its a defining moment in American history and Bush's leadership was a key aspect of that moment. Now, people may disagree with his stewradship of the crisis and the war on terror, and they're free to say so, but the topic is important and needs to be talked about.

[Southpaw]

Is Bush using 9-11 worse than Kerry saying that this year and every year from now every vote will be counted?

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Originally posted by Southpaw
Is Bush using 9-11 worse than Kerry saying that this year and every year from now every vote will be counted?

Yes, because that is something that should happen, its a democracy everyone has a voice, and an opinion, and their vote needs to be counted.

And although it is a lofty goal it is feasible, escpecially if a new balloting system is implemented, ie more high tech.

Lets just be happy butterfly ballots are gone.

[Southpaw]

You know that is not what he means but that is ok if that is what your take on it is.

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Kerry is a saying

A) we need to replace the outdated voting systems, and the government should help the states do this.


B) Legislation must ensure that states will have
guidelines in place that will ensure that voters who speak languages other than English can vote. It must
ensure that people with disabilities can vote. It must ensure that people of color are not denied the right
to vote.

[Ironmag]

I'm no history major but I'm pretty sure that FDR used Pearl Harbor and WWII as part of his re-election campaign in 1944. Was he wrong then that he used that issue as a reason to re-elect him. I think not.

[Southpaw]

Why is it wrong to use 9-11 on an ad? It was a small part of his last few years!

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Originally posted by Ironmag
I'm no history major but I'm pretty sure that FDR used Pearl Harbor and WWII as part of his re-election campaign in 1944. Was he wrong then that he used that issue as a reason to re-elect him. I think not.

Yes they did and this is a good article which argues your guys side

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/article/0,8599,598556,00.html

But their is just something inside my gut I guess you could say. That makes me angry when people use the deaths of any innocent American, to help their own cause.

[Southpaw]

How about innocent people from vietnam? Link #1
and LINK #2

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Let me put it this way, I would not vote for someone, because they served in a war.

And if Kerry used 9-11, to say that it was Bush's fault or something along those lines it would enfuriate me

And I am not a Kerry supporter, I just like him more than I like Bush, and definitly more than Gore

[Restola]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
Nonsense.

First, Kerry's own fliers and mailing include 9/11 as well.

Exactly.

Monkey simply suffers from Bush-Hate.

No amount of logic or facts will change that.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
Indeed its a crappy slogan, but I think Bush using 9/11 in any sort of way is worse then Kerry's slogan.

Right, talking about the LEADERSHIP he has shown during and after that attack is out of line.

[Ironmag]

Originally posted by MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata


Yes they did and this is a good article which argues your guys side

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/article/0,8599,598556,00.html

I love it when I'm RIGHT.

If you want to talk about stuff that should be offensive, how about the name of the group MoveOn.org, the name itself implies that we should just forget about what happened and just MoveOn. I think that is the stupidest thing to do which would just leave us open to move attacks and have no respose to it. This is a different world, take off the rose colored glasses and face reality.