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  • SGTKennedy
    are you experienced?
    • Sep 2001
    • 451

    #1

    Civil Protest

    i dont really want to be banned, but i do want to voice my opinion.

    yes, trouting is pretty stupid. i dont do it cuz i dont care for it. but is there a good reason its a bannable word in the IRC? its not offensive. its not a link to any pornographic or disturbing site. trout is a word i can say around my family. its a fish.

    The slap with the trout, no its not creative, but were paintball players not writers.

    obviously i realize this is a commercially run site, and the IRC is a part of it so im not going to go into free speach, because thats up to the descretion of the site operators. i am just trying to be civil about wanting to be able to say Trout.

    and ill slap any of you trouters that say anything to get this thread closed.

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    i dont like signatures. so i turned them off. AO is much better this way.
  • PyRo
    President Bioloaf inc.
    • Dec 2000
    • 10186

    #2
    Its Rob, Rob will do as he pleases. I say forget the trout, use small mouth bass

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    • SGTKennedy
      are you experienced?
      • Sep 2001
      • 451

      #3
      thats not the point. i dont even like trout. i just dont like control of things that have no reason to be controlled.

      trouts dont kill people, foodborne disease make you sick.
      i dont like signatures. so i turned them off. AO is much better this way.

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      • Thordic
        AFTICA
        • May 2001
        • 5986

        #4
        It is ridiculous.

        The word trout isn't insulting or derogatory. It isn't racist. It isn't offensive.

        So why is it worth a kick/ban?

        Because Rob doesn't like it?

        Rob, you aren't even chatting for 99% of the day. Why should the chat room be run on your whim? You are an op, yes, but it isn't your personal chat room. What is someday you suddenly decide you hate tomatos? Will the word tomato be a bannable offense as well?

        Who cares about what slap scripts are overused. Does it really bother you so much that you have to piss off the chat room regulars by doing something like this?

        I use the chat room every day, almost all day, but if trout is banned, then you can keep banning me, because I'm sticking with it.

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        • Wrathchild
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 211

          #5
          Thordic, you arent the only one that feels this way... The rest of us are playing nicely in #staticeffect currently, come join if you like. You presence will be appreciated.

          [3-7-04][[18:58] [Fred-O] Dizzo and I stripped yesterday... a lot of anno off some parts of mine that is...

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          • platinumjason
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            • Jan 2003
            • 620

            #6
            Well said Thordic, I totally agree with you.


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            • 1stdeadeye
              Still around????
              • Jun 2002
              • 8501

              #7
              Thread closing in 3.....2......1.......

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              • Thordic
                AFTICA
                • May 2001
                • 5986

                #8
                And I was just banned from chat for the day.

                I'd like to thank Rob for abusing his admin powers. I'd also like to thank everyone else in a position to do something about it for not caring.

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                • Brak
                  POOP
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1996

                  #9
                  i think you guys are a bunch of little babies whining and moaning because you cant get what you want. just shut up, for the sake of everyone
                  SIG RULES SUCK REAL BAD AND THEYRE STUPID AND DUMB AND THEY STINK AND ARE STUPID AND I HATE THEM AND THEY SUCK REAL BAD

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                  • PyRo
                    President Bioloaf inc.
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 10186

                    #10
                    I think Tom is the only one with power over rob
                    Just start slapping him with sears, that should annoy him good.

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                    • lord1234
                      College Boy Spydarm
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 1558

                      #11
                      welcome to the world of chat bans for no reason. There needs to be some independent review of how the channel ops in #automags abuse their powers. Kicks for long periods of times for normal offenses(which usually are a 30 second bans), bans on request of other users, nepotism/favoritism needs to be looked at carefully.

                      EDIT: Oh did I mention, forum/chat bans simultaneously for something that happens in chat room that does not in any way violate forum rules.
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                      • Thordic
                        AFTICA
                        • May 2001
                        • 5986

                        #12
                        Brak, if you actually used the chat room, perhaps I'd give a crap about your opinion. But as whats going on doesn't effect you, please STFU.

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                        • mcveighr
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 861

                          #13
                          I don't use the chat room, so I don't know if there are other things that are bothering you aswell. But the trout thing is stupid, annoying, and useless, and it usually just turns into people doing it back and forth.

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                          • joey d
                            yes, I run akaowners.org
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 2030

                            #14
                            yes, I agree that the ban of the word trout is a bit far. if the mods wanted to cut down on the slapping with the trout (an option in the IRC client.. for what reason, im sure the world may never know), they could have banned this by phrase, as opposed to the word.

                            what seems odd, and I will probably get this banned too, is the fact that one can mention tubgirl. a far offensive term than trout. however, I positive trout was not banned for its offensiveness. the reason for the ban, as rob explained in my viva la trout revolution, was that people were excessviely slapping eachother with the trout option. yes, this can really annoying in chat, its part of it. thats what setting +v is for. you want to punish people that use this, moderate the channel, set those who want to chat to +v, and it solves the problem.

                            just bring back the trout. while trout is not in my everyday vocabulary, what happens if an unsuspecting new user comes in, and decides to talk about trout fishing. then gets a 30s tempban, or worse, whatever it is up to now. how does that reflect on the IRC chat, which is a part of the forums (which are moderated quite nicely/smoothly might I add)

                            I will admit, that the trout revolution thread may have been a bit off-cue. it was done as a spoof/joke to all the other revolution threads. this board seems to be built (or at least theres a support brace) on different revolutions of sorts. we have the following revolutions that I know about on the board:

                            cocker revolution
                            pie revolution
                            das untermag revolution
                            bumber eater revolution
                            trout revolution

                            and im sure plenty more that I dont know of. but, lets face it.. most everytime there is something on the boards that someone doesnt like, a revolution for it pops up, and craziness ensues. aside from das untermag revolution, which of them are useful to the boards (and even so, how is das untermag revolution useful as well. granted, I like the concept of it.. ) its not my intention to get revolutions banned, nothing like that. however, if mods choose to scapegoat me in that manner, so be it. I guess what I am really trying to say.. moderate the IRC channel differently. use the moderation option in the channel, set +v to those who really have something to say other than smacking people with trout. you reall want to control it when people abuse it, -v them, then they cant send to the channel.

                            ok, im done now. my civil protest here is more or less finished.
                            Last edited by jdev; 03-19-2004, 09:51 AM.
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                            • Fred
                              AO Zealot
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 2624

                              #15
                              personally, I don't think I've ever used the trout slap in the chat... I don't even know the /command for it...

                              but banning trout is just... lame... it doesn't matter how stupid you think it is, the world doesn't revolve around Rob...

                              why not just rebuke the "lazy" people who use it? antagonize them into using a more creative slap!

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