In Trouble with the Law

[vf-xx]

Community service isn't soo bad.

I work at the library and we've had quite a few people in on community service. Usually for DWI or MIP.

[ZSigErik]

YEa, well, Im a dumb ***, and probably an alcoholic, so im drinking now, but its just me with like a couple others, but I live in Flat Rock Michigan, which is SE.

Anything else will help...

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by fire1811
this is why i drink alone

Ummm.....alcoholic?







ya both parties I was at got rolled the last 2 nights by like 10 30. I think both kids got off with only a warning, thats why its good to stay sober when your throwing a party. When the cops show up just tell them your glad their here because your party got out of control, and you need help clearing the place out.

[Thordic]

If the cops ever show up at your house, just open the door wide enough for you to exit the house, and close the door behind you. Then talk to them on the porch/steps.

If you open the door wide, then they have full view of whatever is going on.

You should also let the partiers know that if the doorbell rings, and its the police, to tell them to hold on, close the door, and get you.

Its very easy to give up your basic rights if you aren't careful / don't know them.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Thordic
If the cops ever show up at your house, just open the door wide enough for you to exit the house, and close the door behind you. Then talk to them on the porch/steps.

If you open the door wide, then they have full view of whatever is going on.

You should also let the partiers know that if the doorbell rings, and its the police, to tell them to hold on, close the door, and get you.

Its very easy to give up your basic rights if you aren't careful / don't know them.

[bunkermaster10]

Man that sucks. You were just having a lil' fun.... Hopefully you learned your lesson not to have a house party at your house.




Its funny over here in Germany at fests they have, they will give beer to anyone. I've seen like 12-13 years old buy beer. Its water for germans, seriously.

[fire1811]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz


Ummm.....alcoholic?

your only an alcoholic if you admit it

[Fatjon]

This just happened to my buddy. I was on my way over there when it got raided. His dad was at bike week so he threw a usual party. The cops came for loud music. No one answered the door. and about 15 people left out the back door. So the cops walked around back and just opened the back door and walked in. 5 people got arrested. The ran everyones tag that was outside and told them they could not come get there cars until 6 the next morning.

[punkncat]

Originally posted by shartley

Actually the police would like you to believe that this was probable cause to enter w/o a warrant.As far as I know the only thing that allows police to enter a premise w/o a warrant is them actually hearing gunfire,seeing a weapon , or other obvious signs of violence.
What complicates this issue is the fact that minors were involved and they don't need permission of a minor, they need permission of an adult which was neither there nor aware of what was going on.
I think when you go to court you will find that the lack of warrant will help you.It could make any evidence they obtained inadmissable, no evidence , no case.
They should have called in for a warrant to cover their own butts.But they knew that the chances that a kid holding a house party sans the folks fighting them was light.

Added on Edit
I would like to point out that right or wrong , the police did exactly what I would want them to do with my kids in a like situation.You should NEVER have had that party.You are too young to start drinking and taking that responsibility into your hands.
There are giant liability issues to your parents and you for allowing other kids to drink and do whatever.Even if they didn't know , it happened at their house.
Slow down bud , partying doesn't lead anywhere good at your age.There will be plenty of time for that in college.

[fire1811]

i know in illinois that if the cops come to a house and see's underage drinking they have every right to enter

it just like they now have the power to pull a vehicle over because you where not wearing your seatbelt.

point is its illegal and there job is to stop it

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by ZSigErik
Yea, thats why I said, Im not wondering that point, at all, I understood why, I was just stating a fact I viewed to be necessary to the story.

Im 17, and live in Michigan, if that helps anymore, iVe done everything the police have asked me to do. I just hope this turns out good, but things always do for me. If I was a thiest I would ask for your prayers in the coming days.

So far your on the right path, don't be a prick, don't say anything about the police being in the wrong (they weren't). If you have been applying to colleges, have a decent GPA, etc. go to the prosecuting attorney, admit full responsibility to him "heh, I screwed up" generally works. Ask him if he thinks this will hurt you much getting into college, talk to the man (or woman), ask questions rather than make statements (aside from being totally candid that you screwed up). Its a minor offense (relatively), you will probably end up with points on your drivers liscense (yeh, you weren't driving, in MI MIP is as bad as DUI). Be apologetic, work out the best deal he will give you, and take it.

[chizle97]

Well from experience, just tell the truth to anyone who wants to know. I had some trouble with the law a few years back and I tried to get out on Illegal search and seziure but ended up getting a harsher punishment because of it. Hope it all turnes out well..

BTW .14!?! DAMN!

[PyRo]

The police on long island are pretty nice. I don't remember them ever breaking up a party. They will come by and tell you to be quiet, and if they have to come back then there is going to be trouble.
One time we were at the beach, and a few of us were drinking. Cop came up, half of us have a beer in our hand. The cop tells us to leave, and my drunk friend gets into a big argument with him. Eventually he gets into his car and we all go, the cop didn't care that he was obviously drunk.
The same kid 2 weeks later got a new car and he drove it about two miles home. The cop pulled him over gave him speeding, no registration, no inspection, no insurance, fake plate, and make him have the car towed.

Everything depends on the mood of the cop.

[PyRo]

Originally posted by chizle97
Well from experience, just tell the truth to anyone who wants to know. I had some trouble with the law a few years back and I tried to get out on Illegal search and seziure but ended up getting a harsher punishment because of it. Hope it all turnes out well..

BTW .14!?! DAMN!

Did have have a lawyer? Never try to get out on a technicality like that without a decent lawyer or you will just annoy them.

[shartley]

Punkncat-
Sorry but your thoughts on probable cause are wrong. And coming from a former police officer, I can clearly state that probable cause goes much farther than the few things you mentioned.