Keep up the good work!

[Flamebo]

This just makes me proud to be an AMERICAN! We support a country who shoots missles at cripples from helicopters that we paid for. Marvelous.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20040322/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians

[edweird]

Figures that a year after we went into iraq again... they have to pull some crap like this...

I dont like your tone, but I do agree that they were pretty off base sending an airstrike against a founder of Hamas that is a quadraplegic and well lets just say a soft target.

Blood will beget blood, and well as someone with a less synical tone... I cant blame USA for this anymore than I can blame us for thowing the afganis weapons to combat the soviets or the iraquis for fighting against Iran.

remember its our guys and gals out there giveing you the freedom to say what ya want at the cost of their humanity. So watch where ya throw the blame.

[1stdeadeye]

Re: Keep up the good work!

Originally posted by Flamebo
This just makes me proud to be an AMERICAN! We support a country who shoots missles at cripples from helicopters that we paid for. Marvelous.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...l_palestinians

So because he is a cripple, he should get a free pass for ordering all of the violence he did. This was no man of peace. Because he did not phsyically carry out the violence does not make him any less guilty. I have no problem with this hit.

A Fish rots from the head! To cripple Hamas they needed to decapitate the organization.

Bravo I say!

[shartley]

Re: Re: Keep up the good work!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


So because he is a cripple, he should get a free pass for ordering all of the violence he did. This was no man of peace. Because he did not phsyically carry out the violence does not make him any less guilty. I have no problem with this hit.

A Fish rots from the head! To cripple Hamas they needed to decapitate the organization.

Bravo I say!

[edweird]

its still an application of force question... Dunno if 3 air to ground missles = Crippled dude in a wheelchair. Especially doing it as he is leaving a religious service.

Its a good thing that he was finally killed but I think Ariel Sharon has a screw loose when it comes to tactfully eliminating high value targets. Its not exactly like the guy is Dr. Claw after all.

[shartley]

Originally posted by edweird
its still an application of force question... Dunno if 3 air to ground missles = Crippled dude in a wheelchair. Especially doing it as he is leaving a religious service.

Its a good thing that he was finally killed but I think Ariel Sharon has a screw loose when it comes to tactfully eliminating high value targets. Its not exactly like the guy is Dr. Claw after all.

[Thordic]

Re: Keep up the good work!

Originally posted by Flamebo
This just makes me proud to be an AMERICAN! We support a country who shoots missles at cripples from helicopters that we paid for. Marvelous.

I'm all for any country that is willing to stop twiddling their thumbs and kill terrorists.

I'm sorry, would you like us to just let the terrorists live out their happy little lives?

When they blow up your family, I'll be the first to care. Promise.

[edweird]

Well I consider it status quo for the country that brought us the .50 cal desert eagle handgun and Mossad hit squads are as common as... well they cant be that common if they called in an airstrike vs the highly mobile quadrapelgic in a wheelchair.

I guess if they are in a wheelchair its considered a light armored vehicle.

If this was an operation operated by the US we would of never stired the proverbial beehive by blowing the bejebuss out of them as they exited a religious service. Honestly Ariel Sharon is really gonna have a bloodbath on his hands when they put down the corpse and pick up the bomb belts. Honestly If Ariel Sharon would of been a little less blazing saddles on this im sure it wouldnt be as huge as this will be.

[shartley]

Originally posted by edweird
Well I consider it status quo for the country that brought us the .50 cal desert eagle handgun and Mossad hit squads are as common as... well they cant be that common if they called in an airstrike vs the highly mobile quadrapelgic in a wheelchair.

I guess if they are in a wheelchair its considered a light armored vehicle.

If this was an operation operated by the US we would of never stired the proverbial beehive by blowing the bejebuss out of them as they exited a religious service. Honestly Ariel Sharon is really gonna have a bloodbath on his hands when they put down the corpse and pick up the bomb belts. Honestly If Ariel Sharon would of been a little less blazing saddles on this im sure it wouldnt be as huge as this will be.

[DukeNukem#1]

if they were space marines, they wouldn't last very long.

Go USA!!!

[Flamebo]

Originally posted by shartley

Well, if you're gonna make it that easy...

Yes, HOW he was killed is a large part of the reason why this is an embarassment. Not only was it a shameless and cowardly attack, but ideally a civilian would have to be tried and convicted of specific crimes before being blown away by missles.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Flamebo
Well, if you're gonna make it that easy...

Yes, HOW he was killed is a large part of the reason why this is an embarassment. Not only was it a shameless and cowardly attack, but ideally a civilian would have to be tried and convicted of specific crimes before being blown away by missles.

[Sparq]

Originally posted by Flamebo
Not only was it a shameless and cowardly attack, but ideally a civilian would have to be tried and convicted of specific crimes before being blown away by missles.

How exactly do you define 'cowardice' when it comes to assassination? Should they have sent someone else in a wheel chair to stab him instead? Give him a fair chance perhaps? Air to surface missiles will kill you just as dead as any other weapon....if the outcome is the same either way, why does it matter how they carried out the attack? Missiles, bombs, guns...the only difference I can think of would only apply had they used a poison of some nature...and only then because it seems 'insidious'. The way they did it was effective, straightforward, and obvious as to who was responsible - no uncertainty, no confusion. What's the problem?

[Thordic]

I never understood this whole overkill arguement.

In my mind, the bigger the weapon, the more humane it is.

If you shoot someone with a .223 slug, chances are it won't kill them instantly, and if they die, it'll be after some considerable pain.

If you shoot someone with a .50 caliber slug, odds are they are dead within seconds if not instantly.

If you shoot someone with a missile and vaporize them, well, then they clearly didn't suffer at all in their passing.

MISSILES ARE HUMANE!

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Flamebo


Well, if you're gonna make it that easy...

Yes, HOW he was killed is a large part of the reason why this is an embarassment. Not only was it a shameless and cowardly attack, but ideally a civilian would have to be tried and convicted of specific crimes before being blown away by missles.

And sending human bombs into crowded civilian areas is somehow not embarassing to Hamas?

And just as an FYI he was already sentenced to death in Israel once. They released him in a prisoner swap a few years back.

Sorry, this guy was the number one planner for Hamas. Crippled wheelchair jockey or not.

He deliberately targeted Israeli civilians.

The fact that he was literally blown to bits is just gravy.

Where do I send the magnum of champaigne for the IDF?