The Passion of the Christ, a non-Christian Review

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  • Jack_Dubious
    ubi dubium ibi libertas
    • Apr 2002
    • 922

    #1

    The Passion of the Christ, a non-Christian Review

    OK so this is like last months news, and I know that The Passion has been overtaken by other movies of the same "risen from the grave" genre....i.e. "Dawn of the Dead". But I thought I would give a quick review anyways...

    If you dont know....The Passion of The Christ is the story of the last 12 hours of the life of a liberal jew carpenter, named Jesus. (pronounced "Hay-Seus", for you non-spanish speakers)
    This is perhaps the movies greatest problem. If a person is a non-Christian or doesnt know the Bible Story that well, they may have a hard time understanding what is going on. The movie tries to fill in some earlier parts of Jesus's life by using quick flashbacks, once again if you know everything about Jesus then these make sense, if not then they dont help you make any connection with him.
    As you may heard The Passion is very violent, due to the fact that in Jesus's last 12 hours he is arrested, beat down, put on trial, and then he really gets his *** kicked. Some people might even say that this movie should have been renamed to " Jesus, You Got Served".
    While I have no problem with violence....hey who doesnt love watching flesh get flayed, I just never felt any connection with this guy. If the movie had show his entire life then perhaps the viewer would understand his struggle, and feel a connection to him. But instead of feeling sad and sorry for him, i just think "damn those Romans are some sadistic bastages".
    Christians seeing the film will still feel a great connection, because they believe that is thier God on the screen getting executed. I guess I might feel the same way if Hugh Hefner was being tortured.

    Language: Yeah the movie is in Aramaic, Latin, Hebrew, and I believe a few lines of Klingon, for good measure. I personally think this was great. I wasnt sure how it would make it, but I found it a really good experience. It gave the movie a much more authentic feel. e.g. In the movie "Last Temptation of Christ", Judas was played by Harvey Keitel, that just killed it for me...like watching Resevoir Dogs Meets Jesus.

    Mary Magdelene: Smokin Hot. Seriously, the scenes where Jesus was on the cross, and they would show Mary Magdelene, I was like "Damn, Id like to tag-team her with my wife".

    Favorite Character (other than Satan): Pontius Pilate. Im not sure why but man I like Pilate, its almost like he is a good guy in this film. You can see he really doesnt want to condemn Jesus, and puts up some weak excuse about pleasing the mob so it doesnt make trouble for him in Rome. But you can see he really is troubled about putting Jesus to death.
    Too bad history tells a different story about Pontius Pilate, being a tyrant to the people he controlled, someone who would never bend to the will of the Jews. But history always gets in the way of a good story...

    Anti-Semitism: The Movie holds pretty close to the Bible, so if there is any anti-semitism that people perceive in the movie, then there there is just as much, (if not more), in the New Testament.
    People need to understand that when the books of the New Testament were written, the writers were under the rule of the Romans. ARound 300ad, the Romans decided to vote on which books would make up what we know now as the bible. IMHO The Romans werent going to create a bible for thier new religion and show that it was they who were responisble for Christs execution. Hence Pontius Pilate being indifferent, try to be neutral, washing his hands of it all, and the Jews repeatedly calling for his blood, wanting a murderer realeased instead of Jesus, etc.
    On a side note, there is a subtitled line that is removed from the movie, when the Jewish Head Priest proclaims that Jesus's Blood is upon them and upong thier children. So remember Jews, jesus's blood is all over you.

    Overall: The Passion was a good movie, id recommed that people see it. If you are a Christian then its probably a great movie. But i would have rather seen a movie about his entire life than just concentrating on his death. But for some that is all they care about.
    Bottomline, Braveheart was still better.
    Last edited by Jack_Dubious; 03-24-2004, 11:07 AM.

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  • Fred
    AO Zealot
    • Feb 2002
    • 2624

    #2
    WHOOOSH!

    That was the point going right over your head.

    As much as I think you may have had a good intention with your point of view for this movie review... You're baiting the Christians among us to make this a religious thread, which would get it closed right quick.

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    • yeahthatsme
      aka yeahthatswang
      • Sep 2002
      • 2592

      #3
      Re: The Passion of the Christ, a non-Christian Review

      Originally posted by Jack_Dubious

      Mary Magdelene: Smokin Hot. Seriously, the scenes where Jesus was on the cross, and they would show Mary Magdelene, I was like "Damn, Id like to tag-team her with my wife".

      LOL good review.
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      • Thordic
        AFTICA
        • May 2001
        • 5986

        #4
        hahaha, oh man that was hilarious.

        I need to paste it over my my forums just so it doesnt get lost.

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        • wyn1370
          ...--...
          • Feb 2001
          • 3821

          #5
          very good review, even better it was funny vs. the fanatics that have been posting on this crap lately
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          • Crime Dog
            Ambassador to Newbies
            • Oct 2003
            • 219

            #6
            *is proud to wear the title "fanatic"* I wonder if that was meant as an insult???

            I'm with Fred. Point on the deciding what would be canon: I don't believe that was all Romans that made those decisions.

            But anyway... I understand the confusion for someone that doesn't know much about Christ. The Passion of the Christ does make much more sense when one knows who Jesus was, and why He was here to begin with. But hey...director's choice, ya know?

            Thanks for the review...interesting to read a Non-Christians review of it! (What I was looking for in a thread I had started previously, but got shut down I believe.)

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            • FactsOfLife
              Conservative Jihadi
              • May 2002
              • 2504

              #7
              JD man that was hilarious 8)

              Once again the AO master of sarcasm strikes!

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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #8


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                • Crime Dog
                  Ambassador to Newbies
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 219

                  #9
                  Tell her she should be glad she wasn't there in person then. The movie doesn't compare what really happened still...

                  So. Anyway....

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                  • phantomhitman
                    ao's official bad guy
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1841

                    #10
                    great review. hay sues, lmao
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                    • AssassN
                      Official Photoshop Phreak
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 1991

                      #11
                      Our preacher thought it was inaccurate, but what does he know.
                      Originally posted by PyRo

                      Its called jokeing. You have no right to be questioning me with your measially 460 posts!!!!

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                      • 1stdeadeye
                        Still around????
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 8501

                        #12
                        J DUb,
                        You beat me to it this time! Funny stuff!

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                        • NJPaint
                          Pro Peace
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2478

                          #13
                          The Passion of Christ is a very moving and emotional film. As someone who has spent extensive time studying the Bible, in my personal opinion it holds true to the Bible, almost verbatim. Give me a scene in the movie and it can be found in the Passion of Christ parts of the Gospels. I spent hours pouring over my three copies of the Bible (King James, Jerusalem and a modernized Episcopal version) after seeing it the first time. It follows the non-synoptic Gospel, John closest of all (the least studied because it is shorter and doesn't have the same fairy story as the others). People can claim all they want that it doesn't follow the bible that it is "Mel Gibson's interpretation", but I have yet to see any evidence of it. I've heard a lot of Jewish kids at my school whining that it doesn't hold to the Bible. Not a single one of them have read a passage from the Bible, much less the Passion of Christ. I am sorry, but transfering the Bible to the screen was fairly straight forward. Were parts embellished? Made more fluid? Yes, of course, like any movie. However, these were director issues, not things that are in the story itself. Anyone who claims otherwise should be put under scrutiny. They haven't read the Bible for comparison, can't read (Bible is 50+ languages), or are being led like sheep by their rabbis. (or a combination of those)

                          Anti-Semitism.

                          Depends what you mean by anti-semitic, if you mean the Jewish lobbyist meaning; anything that doesn't portray Jews as the chosen people. Then yes, it was anti-semitic, well, then every Christian, Muslim, Hindu and Budahist is anti-semitic.

                          If you mean inciting hatred for jews... Which is a more logical term, though wholely incorrect... (Anti-semitic means anti-samites, which includes Jews, and Palestinians (Arab), since they are all samites) Well then... The Passion of Christ was no more anti-semitic than the Bible is. If you want to call the movie Anti-semitic, then you are calling the Bible anti-semitic, which I don't have a problem with. But then spell out the facts, admit that you are calling the Bible anti-semitic. (I think it is to a certain extent, as does anything proclaiming a group as the people of God)

                          People can bring Gibson's father into this, and his 'sources'. I think that it is absurd to consider anything except Gibson's final work. Did he take those works into consideration? As well as his father? Of course he did. Does that make him anti-semitic? No.

                          Overhyping movies... Well, it was the Jewish lobby that hyped it, not Mel Gibson. He spent $15 million to advertise it, tiny by movie standards. I heard about the movie 2 years before it was released because the ALU was making a huge deal about it and as part of AAADC (anti-arab-american discrimination committee), we pick up anything the ALU does. Nobody hyped it because of the violence, people watched it because it follows the most known story to modern humanity.


                          It is a movie. People have the right to see and not see what they please. I think that it was a great movie. It is something that I encourage people to see. Not because I want them to follow Christ, but because these issues plague our modern society. Half of the US population believes in the litteral translation of the Bible. Dispute it if you will, but it is an important world to know and understand. Going into it as a 'convert movie' is the wrong attitude. That is not what it is meant to be. It is an piece of art depicting a very graphic and emotional story of Jesus, The Son of God (to Christians).

                          And no, I am not Christian. I am agnostic. Anyone who says for sure that God doesn't exist is claiming to know as much as anyone who claims that God does exist. (not that I fault either category) Both sets can develope an unbridled pride that they know more about the universe than everyone else. My stance is, I don't know if God exists or not. What I do know is that it is impossible to prove either way and there is too much to information to crunch to get a meaningful answer, therefore I can't ally myself with a fanatic group.


                          (my opinion I saved from another forum that I posted this on)
                          Last edited by NJPaint; 03-25-2004, 08:02 AM.
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                          • Crime Dog
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 219

                            #14
                            That's fair man. I can respect that.

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                            • shartley
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                              • 9169

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Crime Dog
                              That's fair man. I can respect that.

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