Kerry and Gas

[ShortStrokeTX]

Ah, I misread what it was saying, sounds like most things that happens in politics anyways. So we'll just say this was a lesson in politics, things get misread hehe

[logamus]

well the libs did block drilling in anwar. now that diane feinstein has to pay over 2 bucks a gallon, maybe 2 bucks standing next to an oil well doesnt look that bad. but what does she care, she doesnt have to work for a living.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by spyder_strypes
And RoadDawg's comment isn't selfish at all...sure, he may be not be the only one with the problem, but have you ever been in a similar situation?

Yeah it is selfish. And everyone else that wants to tap into the reserves to lower short term prices is selfish and shortsighted.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by logamus
well the libs did block drilling in anwar. now that diane feinstein has to pay over 2 bucks a gallon, maybe 2 bucks standing next to an oil well doesnt look that bad. but what does she care, she doesnt have to work for a living.

Well said.

We need to get off this foreign oil dependency we're hooked on. We have the resources in our posession to do so.

Oil shale, Anwar, offshore, there are NUMEROUS ways to make us independent. But God forbid we disturb some friggin caribou.

[logamus]

Originally posted by PyRo
As far as reserves go, we don't have 50 years of oil stored up, don't know where you heard that one. We need the reserves to be there. What happens if OPEC decides for some reason to outright stop selling us oil, people are going to freeze to death, we are going to be volnerable to attack, so that you could drive to work. Personally I would rather stop driving then have the Mexican army marching down the street. If we become in a large schale war and there is a shortage of oil we need the reserves, they are also a deterant to OPEC from doing some really not nice things with oil prices, even more than now.

well according to the world factbook and assuming my math is correct we have a tad over 3 years in proved reserves. now that is not just the strategic petroleum reserves, but all the oil in the us. not bad but if someone was to turn off the tap then sever rationing would have to take place. but i dont think people would be freezing. opec shut off the tap before and we didnt go to war and the much feared mexican army wasnt marching down the street either.

[HoppysMag]

my thought on this is we give opec a last chance to cut the ****, because we all know they are just screwing us on purpose. then after that we take what we need. blood for oil? hell yes. im 17 now will be 18 in june. and wether or not you think my ideas are valid, wether or not u think im some arrogant punk. id be the one with a rifle in the sands of arabia. "I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in." -George McGovern ( EDIT using this quote to point out how WE the youth are the majority of soldiers yet our opinions arnt respected because we are "too young", and giving us no respect for what we say. when it comes down to the time, give me a rifle and a plane ticket, il fill my tank, provide heat for my family, and fuel for our military.

[logamus]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife



Well said.

We need to get off this foreign oil dependency we're hooked on. We have the resources in our posession to do so.

Oil shale, Anwar, offshore, there are NUMEROUS ways to make us independent. But God forbid we disturb some friggin caribou.

in Texas oil wells are all over the countryside. cows, horses, deer, goats, sheep, bunny rabbits, lizards, etc all seem to get along just fine with the wells. the last thing i think about when filling my tank is how offended a herd of cattle might be at the site of an oil well. total oil independance is something i doubt we will ever see, but it pains me that we import more than half our oil.

[logamus]

hoppy, i sure hope it doesnt come to that.

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by logamus
hoppy, i sure hope it doesnt come to that.

oh ya, dont get me wrong, im not a psycho war monger. obviously peacefull negotiations would be best but we have to do what we have to do to keep our country alive, stong, and independent.

[shartley]

[ShortStrokeTX]

But we've also been slowing down our own oil production so when everybody else runs out, we're still chuggin'. Plus we can just cut down the rockies for gas

[PyRo]

Originally posted by logamus

well according to the world factbook and assuming my math is correct we have a tad over 3 years in proved reserves. now that is not just the strategic petroleum reserves, but all the oil in the us. not bad but if someone was to turn off the tap then sever rationing would have to take place. but i dont think people would be freezing. opec shut off the tap before and we didnt go to war and the much feared mexican army wasnt marching down the street either.

Three years of what though? Three years of extreem rationing, not using oil like we are today. Ok, oil has been cut off before, but for how long? And when they cut off the oil, did we use our reserves?

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by ShortStrokeTX
But we've also been slowing down our own oil production so when everybody else runs out, we're still chuggin'. Plus we can just cut down the rockies for gas

that can also solve the problem of all those old nukes we still have. although ski resorts wont be too happy with it, and im sure canada doesn want to get nuclear piss on them lol sorry had to say it

[PyRo]

Somhow I don't see destorying a mountain chain with nuclear weapons.

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife



Yeah it is selfish. And everyone else that wants to tap into the reserves to lower short term prices is selfish and shortsighted.

It's not selfish. Being selfish would be if I'm the only one and that's the only way it should be. I'm not the only one and I'll never be the only one. What would you do in my situation? I am spending almost $100 a month on gas to transport back and forth from work? I have a very fuel efficent car, I have bills to pay (not unnecessary bills either) such as rent, car insurance, car payment, & health bills. Those 4 things on top of the gas leave me with about $50 for food. If I can take that $50 and get it higher to $60 or $70 then hell I'm all for it. If it means that I can provide that much more for myself and future family then I'm all for it. I'm speaking of how this affects me and YOU call me selfish.