Kurt Cobain Was Murdered

[Dryden]

I don't think Nirvana is/was overrated, selling 10 million copies of your first major label release doesn't happen by a fluke.

However, I do think Nirvana is given far too much credit for their influence on the music industry and grunge.

I was a huge fan of Soundgarden several years before anyone had ever heard of Nirvana. Ultramega OK and Louder Than Love were groundbreaking albums, Nevermind was just more commercially successful. I'm not certain of the year of release, but I do know I owned Alice In Chains' Facelift before having ever heard Smells Like Teen Spirit as well.

This doesn't even account for other bands, like Pearl Jam, Screaming Trees, Mother Love Bone, and the Meat Puppets.
EDIT: Duh, forgot Smashing Pumpkins. And would add Live's Throwing Copper album was significant as well, though Live isn't from Seattle.

Grunge would have exploded no matter what, Nirvana just accelerated the process. So in that regard, yes, they were overrated.

[Albinonewt]

You people are all morons

He's still alive. He was a vampire, his head regenerated after the funeral

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
You people are all morons

He's still alive. He was a vampire, his head regenerated after the funeral

I thought if you cut a vampires head off, they couldn't regenerate!

At least that is why Anthony Hopkins beheaded all of the vampiresses in Bram Stoker's Dracula!

[Albinonewt]

It wasn't cut off, merely blown to bits

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
It wasn't cut off, merely blown to bits

Ah yes, that begs the old joke:

What color were Kurt Cobains Eyes?

Blew! One Blew left and one blew right!

[countchocula54]

i dont think courtny did it...shes too stupid...but if kurt was still alive could you imagine what the music would sound like?...it would be awsome

[dwab3000]

Courtney didnt do it.
i mean courtney was always depressed, kurt was depressed.
thats what herion does to you. i like nirvana and all, but this courtney thing is out of control. first of all, she had an agreement with kurt about money and their will. courtney got a pre-nup because her band, hole, was much more popular than his. he agreed with the ters that she wouldnt be majorly included in his will.
they were fine. this was when hole had just released retard girl and nirvana wasnt that big except for grunge clubs in seattle.

[Automaggin2]

Ever since he died there has been evidence on it. Awhile ago MTV or VH1 did a huge story on his it, with evidence that pointed directly towards courney love.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Automaggin2
Ever since he died there has been evidence on it. Awhile ago MTV or VH1 did a huge story on his it, with evidence that pointed directly towards courney love.

OK let's play Devil's Advocate for a sec.

Do you think that if the police had ANY evidence of Courtney's invlovement in his death, that they would have NOT followed up on it????

[Barfly]

yeah kurt had like 70 times the lethal dose of heroin in his system at the time of his death for a normal person and 3 times the lethal dose for a heavy user.

[The Action Figure]

kurt cobain was a retard

[fcpchop]

Originally posted by Gideon1331
kurt cobain was a retard

ok here is what you are going to do... listen carefully
you are going to beat urself... with a stick... repeatedly, until you knock that stupid thought out of your head. you are a complete idiot. the man did so much for the music industry, he was so ahead of his time, i really beleive if he didn't die they would have grown to be the most popular band of all time by far.

[WickeDKlowN]

The "note" wasn't a suicide note. It wasnt even for Courtney(aside from the last few lines). It was explaining why he was leaving the music industry.

To Boddah pronounced

Speaking from the tongue of an experienced simpleton who obviously would rather be an emasculated, infantile complainee. This note should be pretty easy to understand. All the warnings from the punk rock 101 courses over the years. Since my first introduction to the, shall we say, ethics involved with independence and the embracement of your community has proven to be very true. I haven't felt the excitement of listening to as well as creating music along with reading and writing for too many years now. I feel guilty beyond words about these things. For example when we're backstage and the lights go out and the manic roar of the crowd begins it doesn't affect me the way in which it did for Freddy Mercury who seemed to love. (?)relish in the love and adoration from the crowd. Which is something I totally admire and envy. The fact is I can't fool you. Any one of you. It simply isn't fair to you or me. The worst crime I can think of would be to rip people off by faking it and pretending as if I'm having 100 % fun. Sometimes I feel as if I should have a punch in time clock before I walk out on stage. I've tried everything within my power to appreciate it, (and I do. God, believe me I do, but it's not enough. I appreciate the fact that I and we have affected and entertained a lot of people. I must be one of those narcissists who only appreciate things when they're gone. I'm too sensitive. I need to be slightly numb in order to regain the enthusiasm I once had as a child. On our last three tours I've had a much better appreciation for all the people I've known personally and as fans of our music, but I still can't get over the frustration, the guilt and empathy I have for everyone. There's good in all of us and I think I simply love people too much. So much that it makes me feel too ****ing sad. The sad little, sensitive, unappreciative, pisces, Jesus man! Why don't you just enjoy it? I don't know. I have a goddess of a wife who sweats ambition and empathy and a daughter who reminds me too much of what I used to be. Full of love and joy kissing every person she meets because everyone is good and will do her no harm. And that terrifies me to the point to where I can barely function. I can't stand the thought of Frances becoming the miserable self-destructive, death rocker that I've become. I have it good, very good, and I'm grateful, but since the age of seven I've become hateful towards all humans in general. Only because it seems so easy for people to get along, and have empathy. Empathy! Only because I love and feel for people too much I guess. Thank you all from the pit of my burning nauseous stomach for your letters and concern during the past years. I'm too much of an erratic, moody baby! I don't have the passion anymore and so remember, its better to burn out than to fade away. peace, love, empathy. Kurt Cobain

Frances and Courtney, I'll be at your alter.

Please keep going Courtney
for Frances
for her life which will be so much happier
without me. I Love you. I love you!

There's a whole page about it here: http://www.cobaincase.com/TheNote.htm

[logamus]

Originally posted by Dryden
I don't think Nirvana is/was overrated, selling 10 million copies of your first major label release doesn't happen by a fluke.

However, I do think Nirvana is given far too much credit for their influence on the music industry and grunge.

it is a fluke that it was their album that is best remembered. its not like they were the only band in seattle that had a record contract at that time. it was just luck that theirs is the one most remembered. pearl jams ten sold over 12 million copies but its rarely mentioned in the same breath as nevermind despite having sold 2 million more copies.

dont get me wrong, im not a nirvana hata, just not a nirvana overrata.