Originally posted by Scooter/Cootie
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Yes, a punter in the third round is a stretch, but BJ Sander is a helluva punter. He only started one season since he was behind Andy Groom at OSU, but he made the most of it. He won the Ray Guy Award as the nation's best punter, and had a brilliant game against Purdue on national TV: 7 of 10 punts inside the 20, 5 inside the 5-yard line. I was at the San Diego State where he boomed one nearly 70-yards! Third round is questionable, but Green Bay has a solid punter and long snap holder that they can keep for the next 10 to 15 years. -
Glad to hear someone agrees with meOriginally posted by FactsOfLife
As much as I love henry, I'm still sticking w/ J. Lewis as the best back outta UT. The man is an absolute monster. I remember his freshman year here, he literally was carrying dbacks down the field. It was insane. Too bad he got the greedy eyes on us..
Just to make this relevant, I'm still swooning over what the Titans did in the draft
For Houston's sake, Babin better be a manchild of unheard proportions..
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After they got corey dillon via free agency, I had no clue how they were going to pick. Now that Iv'e seen what they picked up I am still mystefied. A D-lineman as their 1st pick makes sense, but then they use their other 1st rounder on a tight end? Oh well in Belicheck we trust. Winning 2 out of the last 3 makes me think he must have some sort of plan in mind.
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Maybe they grabbed him for goal-line situations? Although for some odd reason I highly doubt that..My thinking is that they're going to try & develop him as a tackle. From what I hear, he's got the potential..Originally posted by MagadethI'm way too old for this ****.Comment
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WERD Double B always has a plan. He's like Hannabil from the A-team it always sounds sketchy but it always works outOriginally posted by MagadethComment
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Maybe Belicheck got him to send a "message" to Fauria and Graham? Either way, he's one of the strongest (Benched 225 30+ times) and fastest (ran a 4.5 40) TE's in the draft. He was rated pretty high on a lot of teams draft boards. I like the pick.Originally posted by Magadeth
If you want to talk confusing TE draft picks, try and figure out why KC grabbed Kris Wilson with their second pick when they already have Gonzalez and Jason Dunn? They've got bigger holes to fill on defense so I'm still scratching my head on that one.
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I think that kickers are almost next to worthless and are not worth a pick on the first day, reguardless of their performance in college. Heck, Paul Edinger was a 6th round pick and is one of the better kickers in the league (except for his performance towards the end of last year). The fact that San Deigo and Green Bay took a kicker/punter in the third round means that they're gonna overpay for a player who's only on the field for 30 seconds.Comment
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The PAts shoulda made their pick in a ski mask cause they flat out stole Vince Wilfork. I'm kinda scetchy on Watson as well. Fauria's contract is up at the end of next season so maybe that had something to do with it.
The Lions are looking freaking brilliant for not taking Winslow:
04/25/04
Mary Kay Cabot
Plain Dealer Reporter
There's another Chosen One in town, and you can bet that his agent, Kevin Poston, will make sure he gets paid like it.
Browns first-round pick Kellen Winslow Jr. - who refers to himself as The Chosen One, the same headline used on the cover of Sports Illustrated to describe Cavaliers star LeBron James - has picked one of the toughest negotiators in the NFL, one who may have caused some teams to shy away from selecting the star tight end.
Saturday, Poston indicated he'll negotiate for Winslow as a player who could've gone anywhere in the top six, meaning there could be a holdout. The Browns took Winslow at No. 6.
"This was the most intriguing draft I've been around because you had six players who could've gone No. 1 overall," Poston said. "If the Jets had the No. 1 pick, they would've picked Kellen. A lot of teams had him No. 1 on their board."
In the weeks leading up to the draft, speculation was that the Washington Redskins would not pick Winslow at No. 5 because they are involved in a dispute with Poston and his brother, Carl, who say the Redskins owe their client LaVar Arrington $6.5 million. The Redskins selected Miami safety Sean Taylor instead.
The Postons represent St. Louis Rams offensive lineman Orlando Pace, who is unhappy the Rams have franchised him again and wants out. They represent cornerback Ty Law, who is in a contract squabble with the New England Patriots, and San Francisco linebacker Julian Peterson, who was franchised by the 49ers when they couldn't come to terms.
In fact, 49ers General Manager Terry Donahue, when told that Winslow hired the Postons, told USA Today Sports Weekly, "Why would the kid do that?"
Saturday, Winslow vowed that he'll be happy with a fair raise over last year's No. 6 pick and get to camp on time.
But after Winslow's news conference, Kevin Poston, who was here with him, made it clear that he'll negotiate for Winslow like he's a future superstar.
"Kellen could easily be the LeBron James of the Browns," Poston said. "He's that talented. When you negotiate with top-value guys, to come up with that value is not easy."
Poston described Winslow as "more than a tight end. He's an unbelievable talent, a star in the making. The bottom line is the Browns know how good Kellen is and was projected to be, and my job is to make sure he gets his fair market value."
Asked whether he could say he'll get Winslow to camp on time, Poston said: "No, I can't. You try to. It takes two to dance. You have to look at who the sixth pick was, who his agent was and other variables. It's not in a vacuum like that."
Last year's No. 6 pick, Georgia defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan, picked by New Orleans, received a seven-year deal worth $19.1 million, including an $11.4 million signing bonus. In 2002, the sixth overall pick, Kansas City Chiefs defensive tackle Ryan Sims, received a six-year deal worth $25 million, including a $9.87 million signing bonus.
Normally, the starting point in negotiations would be about 10 percent over the previous year's same pick. But these negotiations most likely will break the mold.
"Kellen is the top-ranked tight end ever to come out of college," Poston said. "It's in everyone's best interest to get him in on time, but if he gets in on time and doesn't have true value, what's the purpose?"
Poston said the Redskins did not pass on Winslow because of the agents.
"They lost [cornerback] Champ Bailey and they went defense," Poston said. "I talked to coach [Joe] Gibbs. Believe me, he's not going to sleep well tonight. Kellen Winslow is the best tight end he's seen in 27 years of football and he was No. 1 on a lot of people's boards."
Browns coach Butch Davis, knowing he could get a run for his money, literally, from the Postons, called Winslow prior to the selection and stressed the importance of not holding out.
"This kid wants to get in, be on time and wants to help Cleveland win," Davis said. "I think you're doing the organization a disservice if you factor in the agent as to who you are going to pick. You have to pick the guys and have the confidence in your negotiators that we're going to be able to get a deal."
When asked about it, Winslow said: "The way I see it, give me the sixth-pick money. Look at last year's pick and I'm in camp. That's the way I see it."
But Poston definitely sees it differently.
"Do I want him to be in camp with them? Of course I do," he said. "I like summer vacations like all of you do. But it isn't always that easy."BrockSampson "I see dead people..."
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