Hey folks...what do you use to measure BPS on the videos/Midi's that people put up? CoolEdit?
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Any sound/audio editting software will do. I've used Goldwave,CafeWalk,Magix Music Studio etc.
I mostly just use Goldwave for that,it's a tiny and fast loading program.Like 2-3 clicks and you have it.
In person, I use a Pact Timer/Chrono. And HECK NO,I've yet to find an on gun BPS meter that's even close to real life.
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i just count your swears for ten seconds, and however many you say is my bps
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Mine is pretty accurate, dead-on actually if marker is setup right.Originally posted by RRfirebladeIn person, I use a Pact Timer/Chrono. And HECK NO,I've yet to find an on gun BPS meter that's even close to real life.
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theres like only three we can use...
1) the ones on the chrono
2) the sound activated ones on computers
3) the lcd screens
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Well.....when I have one of yours "in person", I'll be sure to let you know.Originally posted by MiscueMine is pretty accurate, dead-on actually if marker is setup right.
My only question there actually,is if the "full auto" condition that seemed quite prevelent in almost everyone who posted about 4.0,has an effect on the counters accuracy. I did check a few of the vids that were posted at the time and they didn't always seem to match up with what the poster saw in the display.
Anyway......till then I'll stick to my methods.
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I have 4.0 and don't have any full-auto problems. It will bounce (3-4 times) if you pull REAL slow. The counter seems pretty accurate to me. Simply pulling I get at most 7, fanning 10, center "nub" raking 13-14 and manike's raking technique 18-19. It usually takes a few seconds to attain the max. number.
BTW, I turn off the solenoid when testing BPS to insure there is no bounce.
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Same difference really.Originally posted by hitech
Basically all I meant was 4.0 has some obvious bugs,whose to say what effect it has on other things such as the counter.
No biggie though,I can only comment on what I've had personal experience with.I have had none w/ 4.0. The counter may function perfectly for all I know.
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It is a hardware problem, not a software bug. However, I can understand not "trusting" something you don't have any experence with. If i didn't have it, I would question it also.Originally posted by RRfireblade
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Software guy blames it on the hardware.........that's a new one.
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Guilty as charged. But I think the hardware guy even half admitted to it.Originally posted by RRfirebladeSoftware guy blames it on the hardware.........that's a new one.
Besides, it's ALWAYS the hardware...
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That's correct, it is not a software bug... there are no bugs, the code is flawless. It is an EMI issue that causes the FA problem.
"Whose to say" ??? Urm... I say that the counter works perfectly.Basically all I meant was 4.0 has some obvious bugs,whose to say what effect it has on other things such as the counter. The problem is the board can attempt to fire the marker, and it mechanically fails to do so. This is when you may have a discrepancy between what the board displays and what actually occurred.
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Originally posted by Miscue
Mmmm k.
I think this was what I was gettin' at. If you have a full auto problem,how do you know what the counter is uhm.....counting?
But I'll just go ahead and say I agree with you anyway.
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Urm, cuz a single shot attempt correlates with the counter being incremented. If it sends a logic high to the solenoid, it increments the counter - guaranteed.Originally posted by RRfirebladeMmmm k.
I think this was what I was gettin' at. If you have a full auto problem,how do you know what the counter is uhm.....counting?
But I'll just go ahead and say I agree with you anyway.
In a FA condition, the shot counter is still an exact indication of how many attempts the board made to fire. The issue is, whether or not the number of trigger pulls are correctly accounted for and if the marker mechanically fired when asked to do so by the board.
This FA issue is an I/O problem, where the board receives false inputs... not a logic problem.Comment
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