fetus is a person...but what about a cell? thats dividing? is that a person? babies are not considered fetal till 2nd trimester...so first trimester they are not feti(i think this is the plural...correct me if i am wrong)
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IMO, if girl got raped, they should go through with the pregnancy and at most consider adoption services or foster care afterwards.
I understand rape is a traumatizing experience, and there is a tremendous amount of constant emotional stress involved, but thats no excuse to prevent a child from being born.
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The difference between these cells and any others is that these cells are the building blocks for a new person, they may not look like a person but that doesn't change anything. It's like wadding up a new $100 dollar bill, it doesn't look the same as before but it is still the same thing.Originally posted by lord1234fetus is a person...but what about a cell? thats dividing? is that a person? babies are not considered fetal till 2nd trimester...so first trimester they are not feti(i think this is the plural...correct me if i am wrong)
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well then a complex carbohydrate cell is the building block too....so like a banana? or say maybe some sugar?A Sanchez Machine Distributor
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also cryer, it has been proven that children who go into the adoption/DSS system have MANY problems..(i am sure someone who has been adopted/dss'd will read this and get pissed...sorry, but its a larger amount of ABNORMAL people that come out of this process than normal people). Also, its a traumatizing experience for mother/family to ahve to give up a child. Personally if my daughter was raped, i would have her have an abortion...who in gods green earth would want to bring a baby into the world that has the genetic profile of a vicious rapist? Personally i think that somewhere deep down inside criminal personalities are genetic and I think upon entry into the prison system, sterilization should be instant.
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Personally, I think thats better than not having the opportunity to have problems in the first place.Originally posted by lord1234also cryer, it has been proven that children who go into the adoption/DSS system have MANY problems.
I honestly can say, that if I were ever to have a part in an abortion (whether it be a wife's, a daughter's, or a friend's) I would not be able to wash my hands of it. I would carry the guilt to my death bed, and perhaps beyond.
regardless of whose child it is, it deserves to live.
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I only have one simple question.
If you leave the process of procreation alone, i.e. don't abort, what is produced from these "cell divisions"?
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I'm sorta pro-life BUT:
if the person is born into a ****ty family who does NOT like adoption, then an abortion is a must. Why bring a child into a living hell?
Some people do NOT believe in adoption, but in abortion. Why? I don't know
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Comedy "A Human" answer. That's all well and good, but for a women to put herself through 9 months of ill health, discomfort and whatever the hell else sucks about pregnancy for a baby she doesn't even want, only then for her just to give it away (or even worse, care for it substandardly(?))seems kind of unfair, to both parties. Let them nip it in the bud and chalk one up to experience.Originally posted by FactsOfLifeI only have one simple question.
If you leave the process of procreation alone, i.e. don't abort, what is produced from these "cell divisions"?
Also technically, an unborn baby counts as a parasite
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Originally posted by JonnehComedy "A Human" answer. That's all well and good, but for a women to put herself through 9 months of ill health, discomfort and whatever the hell else sucks about pregnancy for a baby she doesn't even want, only then for her just to give it away (or even worse, care for it substandardly(?))seems kind of unfair, to both parties. Let them nip it in the bud and chalk one up to experience.
Also technically, an unborn baby counts as a parasite
hmmmm. Lets think about this one for a second. If she doesnt want the baby, then.......................................
simple math
1+1=2
1+0=1
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Make it 21!Originally posted by Jack_DubiousIm pro-choice...especially if they could increase the age of an abortable fetus....like up to 16 years old.
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Originally posted by JonnehComedy "A Human" answer. That's all well and good, but for a women to put herself through 9 months of ill health, discomfort and whatever the hell else sucks about pregnancy for a baby she doesn't even want, only then for her just to give it away (or even worse, care for it substandardly(?))seems kind of unfair, to both parties. Let them nip it in the bud and chalk one up to experience.
Also technically, an unborn baby counts as a parasite
I can't even comment on this.
Mods, ya best nip this thread in the bud...
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id like to add
all the male people posting now cannot really relate (including me). we cannot begin to imigine the emotional and physical stress that may come with an un-wanted baby. in the end it does not really come down to whether we ourselves find it right or wrong, because according to the law we have no say whether or not the female keeps the baby, but i believe that you should support them no matter what decission they make.Comment

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