WHat the hell is wrong with people?

[Lohman446]

It costs a lot more, but, life without parole is better. Hell, that would suck sooo bad. Although death is good too...

Actually, given todays appelate process it is actually cheaper for someone to serve life than to be given a death sentence. That being said, if you can convict with certainty some crimes require the death penalty.

[Python14]

Life without parole....and then have a picture of the children covering every wall of his cell. Then, for Christmas every year, the state of Maryland gives him a ham. And by ham I mean the decapitated body of a pig.

[Fatjon]

I think this is horrible. I heard about it on the news earlier. I couldnt believe it. I think the guy should be decapitated Slowly with a cheap 2" flea market knife.

[1stdeadeye]

Looks like they caught the evil people responsible!

Turns out the killers are relatives of the children: a cousin and an uncle. THe whole family is illegally here. The Mexican consulate is already involved.

[HOMOCIDAL2]

Torture would be appropriate, because life in prison is only 25 years. Becareful what you say, you don't want to violate some scumbag's civil rights. Even though they are illegal aliens, the ACLU will probably protect them and figure out some loop hole.

[xsiled]

No it's not that we don't have them, it's just that we have fewer of them.

considering Canada only has 31 million people in comparison to the 290 million we have, id say there is a reason you have fewer

[Drizit]

considering Canada only has 31 million people in comparison to the 290 million we have, id say there is a reason you have fewer

sorry my bad i forgot to say "per capita"

you know if they don't get put in solitary, (and by that i don't meen a pitch black room like they used to that's called crule and unusual punishment now, go fig, they kill someone and we have to pay for HBO) then they will have a verry bad time in jail as convicts usualy frown on harming children, and as guards do as well they tend to be slow to react.

[Hasty8]

It costs a lot more, but, life without parole is better. Hell, that would suck sooo bad. Although death is good too...

Yeah, right. 3 hots and a cot, medical care and easy access to an almost endless supply of lawyers?

Take this freak out back and give him a .45 frontal labatomy.

[Bluestrike_2]

I'm not talking about a nice little prison. I'm talking about the

Chateau d'lf prison in France(yeah, I know, I just saw the Count of Monte Cristo).

A beating every year on their anniversary. No light. One little bowl of slop each day. Very little. Oh yeah, they gotta sleep with their droppings as the crap bucket only is emptied once a week.

Hello. Happy Anniversary.



Ok, but....

They are taken away. On the seat is a pistol for them to blow their brains out. A gentlemen's courtesy. So, he shoves it in his mouth and pulls the trigger. Click! NO BULLETS!!! How's that for playing with a moron's mind? Then the mother sticks her head in a window and says "You didn't think I'd let you get away that easy, now did you......"

A life of NEVER seeing another human being. Ever. Expcept for the "torturer" on your anniversary.

Again, Happy Anniversary....

[Hasty8]

I'm not talking about a nice little prison. I'm talking about the

Chateau d'lf prison in France(yeah, I know, I just saw the Count of Monte Cristo).

A beating every year on their anniversary. No light. One little bowl of slop each day. Very little. Oh yeah, they gotta sleep with their droppings as the crap bucket only is emptied once a week.

Hello. Happy Anniversary.



Ok, but....

They are taken away. On the seat is a pistol for them to blow their brains out. A gentlemen's courtesy. So, he shoves it in his mouth and pulls the trigger. Click! NO BULLETS!!! How's that for playing with a moron's mind? Then the mother sticks her head in a window and says "You didn't think I'd let you get away that easy, now did you......"

A life of NEVER seeing another human being. Ever. Expcept for the "torturer" on your anniversary.

Again, Happy Anniversary....

The only problem with this is that is has an effect on society as a whole. By treating our prisoners like this we are essentially lowering ourselves to their level.

I know the desire for revenge is sweet but to quickly and efficiently remove them from society is better in my honest opinion.

[cphilip]

Interestingly enough I once had a heated debate with a friend of mine (Lawyer from Millwalkie) about death penatly. He never realy made much progress in convincing me (he was against it and I was arguing for it) until he stopped me in my tracks with this argument....

He argued that it was cheaper to house a prisioner (very dangerous one in maximum security) than it was to eventually pay for all the legal automatic system stuff to eventually be able to carry out the death sentence.

Now he had some numbers and facts at the time that I cannot recall but he pretty much was throwing out numbers that seemed reasonable. And if your going to carry out a death sentence you MUST have all these chances to make sure that person is guilty so there is no real resonable way to reduce that. But that for instance if it took you say 250,000 to keep him for say 30 or so years.... or a Million or more to go through all the legal process to kill him for his crimes.... which one is better? And which one is more punative? Making him rot in jail for all his life?

Even though I do not really appose the death penalty moralisticaly .... I wonder if its all worth it after thinking about that.

[shartley]

Interestingly enough I once had a heated debate with a friend of mine (Lawyer from Millwalkie) about death penatly. He never realy made much progress in convincing me (he was against it and I was arguing for it) until he stopped me in my tracks with this argument....

He argued that it was cheaper to house a prisioner (very dangerous one in maximum security) than it was to eventually pay for all the legal automatic system stuff to eventually be able to carry out the death sentence.

Now he had some numbers and facts at the time that I cannot recall but he pretty much was throwing out numbers that seemed reasonable. And if your going to carry out a death sentence you MUST have all these chances to make sure that person is guilty so there is no real resonable way to reduce that. But that for instance if it took you say 250,000 to keep him for say 30 or so years.... or a Million or more to go through all the legal process to kill him for his crimes.... which one is better? And which one is more punative? Making him rot in jail for all his life?

Even though I do not really appose the death penalty moralisticaly .... I wonder if its all worth it after thinking about that.

[cphilip]

I don't know Sam.... Someone find me the real costs. Either way its not nessicarily all a moral argument if it comes down to something like that. If it was to prove out to be so...

[PyRo]

How come in third world countries they don't have half the technology and such in jails we do yet they have less escapes (with the exception of briding guards), riots, etc? Kind of makes me thing we are doing somthing wrong.

[cphilip]

Yea we don't shackle and torture them.... Or at least are outraged when we find out its done. More or less our Prisons are training grounds for super criminals with all the access and resources we provide.