Ipod info needed

[FreakBaller12]

Well i am thinking about getting an Ipod..
The battery recharge problem has been fixed, correct?
Also what's the deal with the 15gb 20 gb 40 gb
How does that work? Like how big is each song, about how many songs can i get?

An ipod users give any reviews?

[dwab3000]

i have the 15 gig one...

its pretty sweet...i have two cds on there now (RATM: Evil Empire, and Redman: Malpractice), the most i put on there is three cds, but it still wasnt full
1 song is usually between 1meg to 5 megs....matters

as for battery recharge, i havetn had the problem, and havent heard of it .. hmm

[Skoad]

http://www.apple.com/ipod/

[FreakBaller12]

is it like a computer? like you can delete the song and get that memory back?
I am trying to figure out if there is anyway they can get me where I dont get that many songs.

[tsc]

You cannot change or delete the songs when they are on the ipod. However, when it is hooked up to your computer, you use itunes to manage/add/delete any songs or playlists you want. They're stored in the itunes library, and you can have it configured to automatically update the iPod to whatever songs you have in the library, or so you can click and drag songs directly onto the iPod-- handy if you just want to add one or two (this is how I have mine configured).

The iPod is essentially a tiny computer, in that it uses a hard drive and has a rudimentary O/S. I've heard some problems with iPod Minis freezing up, but the girl I had heard it from isn't of the greatest mental capacity.

I have about 800 songs on my 15gig right now, and I love this thing. I take it everywhere, and it's quite the escape from reality.

[Curly]

I have a 40 gig, I love it. You can also use them as a hard drive to transfer or back up files on your computer. I would really recomend getting a firewire card if you dont have one, it will speed up the transfer a lot. ATM I have about 1780 songs on my ipod and have only used like 7 gigs of the space.

[painTech]

ipods own. the new ones even have some games.

[Bluestrike_2]

Here's some Battery advice, I've lifted completely from Battery Universe I hope you find it helpful.

The iPod has a Lithium-ion/ploymer type battery, these commonly are only rated at 300-500 charges; the iPod in my experience has been rated at 500, (you will see why this firgure isn't anything to worry about).

Lithium-ion is a low maintenance battery, an advantage that most other chemistries cannot claim. There is no memory and no scheduled cycling is required to prolong the battery's life. In addition, the self-discharge is less than half compared to nickel-cadmium, making lithium-ion well suited for modern fuel gauge applications. lithium-ion cells cause little harm when disposed.

A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible. Instead, charge the battery more often. There is no concern of memory when applying unscheduled charges.


Some sound advice:
# Avoid full discharges; recharge lithium-ion more often. Repetitive random charge does not harm the battery. There is no memory.
# Keep the lithium-ion battery cool. Avoid a hot car. For prolonged storage, keep the battery at a 40% charge level.
# Avoid purchasing spare lithium-ion batteries for later use. Observe manufacturing date. Do not buy old stock, even if sold at clearance prices.



Some Do's and Don'ts:
#Do charge the battery often. The battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges.
#Avoid full cycle because of wear. 80% depth-of-discharge recommended. Re- charge more often. Avoid full discharge. Low voltage may cut off safety circuit.
#No maintenance needed. Loses capacity due to aging whether used or not.
#Store at 40% charge in a cool place. Do not store at full charge and at warm temperatures because of accelerated aging.




How to Charge and When to Charge:
Should I use up all battery energy before charging?
No, it is better to recharge more often; avoid frequent full discharges.
Yes, on batteries with a fuel gauge, allow a full discharge once a month to enable reset

Should I charge my battery partially or fully?
Does not matter. Charging in stages is acceptable. Full charge termination occurs by reading the voltage level and charge current. Charging a full battery is safe and does not cause harm.

Should the battery be kept charged when not in use
Best to store at 40% charge. Cool storage is more important than state-of-charge. Do not fully deplete battery because Li-ion may turn off its protection circuit.

Will the battery heat up during charge?
No, little heating is generated during charge. A large laptop battery may get lukewarm. Do not allow the battery to heat during charge. [If charging the iPod in a dock connected to a PC & if the drive is mounted; the Hard Drive head will still spin, and it will heat up].

What should I know about chargers?
Charger should apply full charge. Avoid economy chargers that advertise one-hours charge. Fastest full-charge time: 2-3 hours.


All info from Battery Universe written up by Isidor Buchmann; founder and CEO of Cadex Electronics Inc., in Vancouver BC. Mr. Buchmann has a background in radio communications and has studied the behavior of rechargeable batteries in practical, everyday applications for two decades. Award winning author of many articles and books on batteries, Mr. Buchmann has delivered technical papers around the world.

Batteries do NOT last forever. The morons at ipodsdirtysecret.com are too dang stupid to realize this. The same will happen with ANY battery. Those brothers, a waste of air...

[FreakBaller12]

Thanks guys and especially blue streak
I think i might just geth the 10k.
Or should i drop the cash and just get like 20k?
I am thinking i don't need THAT many songs.

[Bluestrike_2]

No problem.

May I suggest an iPod mini? 4 gigs. GREAT for running, or jogging, or walking. Also good for in the gym. Pick up a copy of MACWORLD, this month's edition at Barnes & Noble or at the Apple section in your CompUSA. An article about the iPod in cars. Very informative and neat.

http://www.ipodlounge.com

Go there for any info you need. Check out the galley.

[MagMan5446]

Nomad Jukebox Zen from Creative. I have a USB2.0 20gb which kicks *** but they came out with newer versions.

[swanster]

it also doubles up as a portable hard drive meaning you can carry digital images, word documents etc.. with you.

it also has games you can play whilst your bored ( like reading books in school )

[Dryden]

This is marketing speak, so take it with a grain of salt. The encode quality would have to be attrocious to fit that many songs in 40Gb of space. Any lossy compression format for music will sound horrible if you pump the output through something better than $20 Altec Lansing desktop speakers. Even the cheapest ear-bud headphones will sound bad.

How much storage space you'll get is partly dependent on the file format and compression level, but the larger factor is the style of music you listen to. I've got a fairly wide taste in music (just about anything that isn't country or rap), and on my PC now I have 1600+ albums encoded in VBR .mp3 format which I've personally ripped and encoded myself using cdparanoia and LAME with a boatload of filtering switches to set hi and low-pass filters, encoding speed and quality, hi and low encode bitrates and even block sizes. With as near to true, CD-quality clarity that the .mp3 format will achieve, my total count is about 18,000+ songs requiring over 120Gb of disk space.

The iPod, I think, is overpriced, undersized, and suffers from all the DRM "features" that are built into iTunes. The 80Gb Archos costs less than the 20Gb iPod and doubles as a portable USB 2.0 harddrive for any operating system, so you won't be handcuffed into a Windows version, a Mac version, and iTunes.

[Bluestrike_2]

Dryden, your are soooo wrong:

The iPod is NOT, I repeat NOT, locked into one OS. Get your head out of your rear. I use my iPod as a big old hard drive, transfering files and such around. Now, I go from Windows to Mac with it. So, you are wrong. Very wrong. :P


First off, you DO NOT NEED TO USE iTUNES MUSIC STORE!!! You can rip your CD's into the iTunes program. Yet, you need not purchase music from them.

Second, every single music-download company(the legal kind)uses DRM. ALL OF THEM. Otherwise the RIAA and the recording industry NEVER would have gone for it. So does the MPAA(Motion Picture Association of America) on DVD's and VHS cassettes. Ever hear of macrovision? What about the WMV-HD(Terminator 2 EE had it on disc two). You would put the disk in a darn fast computer(it had to be), it would phone home to a server to get permission to play. For god's sake, IT NEEDED PERMISSION TO PLAY! And you dare to call Apple's unfair?

Oh yeah, Windows has it too!! Remember the activation thing on Windows XP. You know 30 days or you can't use it. That's just like it. Almost all expensive apps on Windows uses activation/DRM. Same with serial keys. So, uhhhh, you are using DRM on Windows. Hehe... Besides, the Apple one is rather generous. 5 computers can play the songs. Unlimited amount can store them, just not play them(above the 5). Can burn them unlimited number of times. Although the exact same playlist can only be burned 7 times, a single change to it will reset the number. So yeah, real unfair. Did I mention you can stream/share it to computers on your network? What about, using applications and broadband, stream it over the web(securely, of course)to you at work, or on vacation etc. Besides, the DRM is easy to get rid of. The easiest is using an application. They remove the DRM, BUT LEAVE YOUR APPLE (or you can use an AOL) ACCOUNT INFORMATION IN IT. Thus, if you try to throw it up on a file-sharing network, YOU GET CAUGHT!!! So, pirates, be gone!

My take on the sound quality:

I used to use FLAC(Free Lossless Audio Codec). Then came iTunes 4.5. Now, we have Apple Lossless. So, I recopyed them. I copy my CD's to my computer(s) twice. On one, the media server, I copy to Apple Lossless. The average file is about 50-70 megabytes, depending on length. Then, on my G5, I copy it in 192 AAC for my iPod. With local network streaming(sharing) enabled, I can stream it across my network to my 3 computers and the home theater as well, with the eyeHome box thingy(eyeHome= stream photos, movies, songs, etc. across network). So, I listen to the lossless in my home, and the 192 AAC on my iPod. Sure, royal pain in the rear. Yet it is worth it. As a fellow audiophile, I am sure you will agree with me.

Now, on my iPod, I listen to it through Shure e3c in-ear canalphones. Now, while I would love e5's($500), the e3's are great. I do hear the compression, and can tell it's there, BUT! I realize that I am not trying to be overly critical while listening to it. It is, after all, a portable player. All of them have poor audio quality compared to a set of reference monitors.

Yeah, the iPod is expensive. Yet, you sound like an audiophile from your post. How much did your speakers cost? Your canalphones/earphones/headphones? A lot! Same here. Now, I don't want to get into this part. Yet, the user-interface is great compared to my old Rio. The smart playlists are something important to me.

Hour till race time: Olympic theme songs, Without Limits songs, and Prefontaine soundtrack. Then, last song, something strong. Really strong to get the blood pumping.

Hard Rock Cafe : The CD's from HRC

Ready to Race: Very heavy, hard and strong music

After: John William's Hymn to New Englands(Olympics).

On-the-go - Relaxationish music

Pre - Songs from movie WITHOUT LIMITS and PREFONTAINE.

Sleep - Ease (Air theme song from Alton Towers.)

Wake Up Call - Street music and Katanga Canyon from Alton Towers.

You see, I have a HUGE amount of control over what I hear. It is all worth it.

Oh yeah, there is Party shuffle in iTunes, the internet Radio, Purchased Music playlist, My top Rated, and the top 25 most played.

The iPod is the most customizable option on the market. Yes, I have used many others. So, have you used the iPod.

This is marketing speak, so take it with a grain of salt. The encode quality would have to be attrocious to fit that many songs in 40Gb of space. Any lossy compression format for music will sound horrible if you pump the output through something better than $20 Altec Lansing desktop speakers. Even the cheapest ear-bud headphones will sound bad.

How much storage space you'll get is partly dependent on the file format and compression level, but the larger factor is the style of music you listen to. I've got a fairly wide taste in music (just about anything that isn't country or rap), and on my PC now I have 1600+ albums encoded in VBR .mp3 format which I've personally ripped and encoded myself using cdparanoia and LAME with a boatload of filtering switches to set hi and low-pass filters, encoding speed and quality, hi and low encode bitrates and even block sizes. With as near to true, CD-quality clarity that the .mp3 format will achieve, my total count is about 18,000+ songs requiring over 120Gb of disk space.

The iPod, I think, is overpriced, undersized, and suffers from all the DRM "features" that are built into iTunes. The 80Gb Archos costs less than the 20Gb iPod and doubles as a portable USB 2.0 harddrive for any operating system, so you won't be handcuffed into a Windows version, a Mac version, and iTunes.

[Bluestrike_2]

Another thing:

There are scripts and programs for your iPod. Some will go and fetch cover art and song data, etc. Others will fetch movie times for local theater(s). Some get the weather data for the day, and week. There are others, too.

http://www.ipodlounge.com <<-----Only place you need info from

Also, you can sync(I know on a Mac, not sure on Windows)your iPod to your computer. On the Mac you can make it a virtual PDA. On Windows, you can do similair stuff. Maybe the same, I don't know.

Contacts - Sync to your address book

Calendar- Self-Explanatory

Notes - Very cool feature

Here's one of mine:

To Mr. Thief:

Congratulations! You have stolen my iPod! Now, you are going to die.

This iPod had a small vile of VX poison gas implanted within it. Within ten minutes, this vile will spray it's contents. The gas will eat your skin while you are still alive. Your eyes will burn out, with you still having feeling. You will then get a bunch of bubbles under your still burning skin. Then, you will die a horrid, painful death. Look in the notes section of this iPod, where you found this, for my contact information. There you will find information on how to return this. No criminial charges will be pressed.

Another anti-thief feature is included. When you hook this up to a computer, a program will run, sending an email with your whereabouts, IP address, machine identification codes, and personal information to the FBI, the police in your area(it will find that out), my local police, and to anyone in your address book. You can't hide, Mr Thief. Return now....

After this happens, and it will happen quite fast, a virus will be downloaded onto your computer that will zero your hard drive, turning your computer on when you aren't expecting it. Your system will be destroyed. A worm will then embed itself in your memory modules, motherboard, and graphics card to prevent it from ever functioning again.

Ok, OBVIOUSLY, this was made up. I mean really, VX gas? :Chuckles: If someone were to look at this, I would love to see their expression, with their big, thiefy eyes staring down at the screen. The program one is pretty funny too.... :P

Oh yeah, there is a contact note with my information.