Those sons 'a' B***hes decapitated the guy....

[PissedGodzilla]

CNN


Looks like it happened again, those bastards....

[Hasty8]

All my love goes out th=o his family and his poor wife.

You know, I'm really trying to not lower myself to their level but after Daniel Pearl, Berg and others, I am seriously starting to lean towards sterilization of the entire are.

[lord1234]

what have i always said? a properly placed nuclear weapon could turn that place into one big green parking lot!

[PissedGodzilla]

what have i always said? a properly placed nuclear weapon could turn that place into one big green parking lot!

why green?? wouldn't it be a big giant piece of glass at that point??

unbelieveable.... All my best to the family as well

[Kellen_p8nt]

ugh ugh ugh. Its not really te fact that he got beheaded that tips the cup. I mean thats horrible and all. But on the news theyve been interviewing his family and its felt like that progress was being made to saving this guy. It feels bad because everyones hopes and i guess prayers were for this guy to make it out but quite abruptly that has ended.


Im starting to think the same Hasty. However, tactics like this are not some new phenomenom. Long ago in days long past etc. things like this worked. The enemy would take a hostage and threaten his life in exchange for captured prisoners on the other side or other variou demans. And back then it would work.

America has a no negotiation stance on terrorism. So assuming, a highly probable assumption, that the people responsible for this know this fact they must be doing it for some other reason. My two logical possibilities are. 1) Mind game. Whi;e beheading videos and such dont get shown on tv in their entirity, they still have a demoraizing effect. Add to this the media known as the internet where anything like that can be obtained instantly.

2) Americas no negotiation stance makes it damn near impossible for terroists to achieve anything.



either way. This is a horrible thing. I feel very bad for his son and sons wife whom have a child.

[-Carnifex-]

This makes me sad for two reasons.

1.) A man's head was cut off.

2.) Because American soldiers go there and are killed, but don't get half the recognition these guys do.

[brianlojeck]

why green?? wouldn't it be a big giant piece of glass at that point??

He's refering to Trinitite, which is the name Oppenheimer coined for the green glass that results when you detonate nuclear arms over sandy terrain. I dont' know why it's green exactly, it must be some impurity in the sand (copper oxides? I'm trying to remember what is used to make green fireworks and lighter flames)

As for this latest victim of terrorism, please don't take what I'm about to say to be pro-terrorist, but I consider him a victim of his own greed, and I feel he failed in his duty to his wife and kids.

He was making a LOT of money to be there doing whatever it was he did (some kind of engineer...) He knew full well there was a massive risk to his safety, and he decided the money was more important, and now his child has no father.

It would be one thing if he were in the military, armed and trained, but he was just a civvie. You could not pay me enough to put myself in the path of such harm. I know my family would rather have money problems with me alive then have all the money in the world without me.

Had he stayed stateside and been with his family, he would not have been caught up in this.

Now, with that said, I'm in favor of leveling the whole damn area myself. If I were king the sun would not have risen on Afghanistan on 9/12/01. (see? the system works... I'm not king.)

[PissedGodzilla]

He's refering to Trinitite, which is the name Oppenheimer coined for the green glass that results when you detonate nuclear arms over sandy terrain. I dont' know why it's green exactly, it must be some impurity in the sand (copper oxides? I'm trying to remember what is used to make green fireworks and lighter flames)

Interesting little factoid I was never aware of thanks for the edumacation....

[Hasty8]

This makes me sad for two reasons.

1.) A man's head was cut off.

2.) Because American soldiers go there and are killed, but don't get half the recognition these guys do.

The difference between the two is that soldiers accept the risk of dying and the others caught and killed so far were people there trying to make their lives better. Not that the soldiers weren't.

It's hard to put this into words and I agree that there is far too little public recognition for our fallen soldiers. I try to take time out at the very least on Memorial day to think about their ultimate sacrifices.

Pearl, Berg and now Johnson will have no such day of remebrance.

[Thordic]

I don't consider him a victim of greed at all. I see where you are coming from, but I don't agree.

Now, its true, you make a decent amount of money. Its usually around 160% to 180% of your salary, and its tax-free up to a certain point. Considering he was an engineer or sorts, he could have come home after a year with $200,000 tax free (just a random estimate, but possible). But I don't think that 160% of your salary would be enough to convince you to put yourself in harms way like that, its not like you are making millions.

I think it has to do with the fact that most people just like to sit over here and ***** about nothing getting done, and some people are willing to go over there and be part of a solution. Some people might say there are bigger issues out there than an individuals life.

Apparently you care more about your own hide than any greater cause though.

[lord1234]

https://www.lockheedmartin.com

[-Carnifex-]

The difference between the two is that soldiers accept the risk of dying and the others caught and killed so far were people there trying to make their lives better. Not that the soldiers weren't.

It's hard to put this into words and I agree that there is far too little public recognition for our fallen soldiers. I try to take time out at the very least on Memorial day to think about their ultimate sacrifices.

Pearl, Berg and now Johnson will have no such day of remebrance.

They accepted the risk by going there. Soldiers accept the risk for everyone, these guys had incentive to go there.

[brianlojeck]

Apparently you care more about your own hide than any greater cause though.

You don't consider your family a greater cause? I can think of none greater.

[brianlojeck]

Interesting little factoid I was never aware of thanks for the edumacation....

;-) if there's one thing I'm good for, it's useless information.

The Trinity Site, where the first nuclear test took place (Oppenheimer had a fetish for combining religeon and the bomb it seems) is open to the public two days out of the year (although I forget what they are)

One of the exibits there is a piece of Trinitite, along with an obilisk marking the spot where the tower that held the bomb stood.

I've never been, but reportedly those who have brought Geiger counters with them say the radiation is no stronger there then anywhere else.

[PissedGodzilla]

;-) if there's one thing I'm good for, it's useless information.

The Trinity Site, where the first nuclear test took place (Oppenheimer had a fetish for combining religeon and the bomb it seems) is open to the public two days out of the year (although I forget what they are)

One of the exibits there is a piece of Trinitite, along with an obilisk marking the spot where the tower that held the bomb stood.

I've never been, but reportedly those who have brought Geiger counters with them say the radiation is no stronger there then anywhere else.

Considering it was a very low yield detonation, and wind erosion and such in that part of the desert, I could see very negligible differences there in comparison to a normal area. The radiation could have dissipated for the most part.


Also you have to take into context where the geiger counter is that is taking the readings. There are very low emitting radiation sources that wouldn't set the counter off until it was within a few inches of the reader. Trust me, i work with radiation almost every day...


A little radiation never hurt anyone... lol