AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
People die for these freedoms, but noone is allowed to excersize them, unless their viewpoints coincide with yours?
No criticizing, this is more in fun.
But arguing at people attacking MM verbally for exercising his freedom of speech is really starting a circular argument isn't it. Try to think about that one
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
ur all wrong. the us gov. is not as innocent as you think. go to this site and read about the oklahoma city bombing and how the atf was responsible for it
The same way Bush and Cheney casts aside knowledge for power and control.
Oh.
I'm glad that was relavent to this thread.
Lohman, the part where you called me a hypocrite for defending ANYONE's freedom of speech is very original, and unheard of. It doesn't surface any time anyone is ever talking about the subject.
Heat, I wasn't aware that MM had insulted you in the past.
michael moore is a brilliant man. you will call him a big fat idiot. when he is very intellectual. as for calling him fat so is 60% of the rest of america and probably quite a few of you who will call him fat arent exactly in your prime. I saw f.9/11 and it was incredibly well done. and this was said before which was well put all you people who saw "give me his address we will go beat him up" you never have looked more like such idiots. ur basically resorting to violence because you dont like what someone said. and you all know none of you would EVER launch a physical attack against him. I also would like to see how some of you figure Moore hates america. Is it because he doesnt like bush, because that is the only figure he politcally attacks. Kerry doesnt like bush and so do most democrats. O NO all democrats must hate america. now i must go don my flame suit cause there is a fire storm comin my way.
That guy is awful! I'll tell you what pisses me off the most. I was in europe for a while last year, and it seemed as if so many europeans read his books like "stupid white men" and watched "bowling for columbine". They seriously took what he said as fact, and that led them to believe that america is essentially a horrible place full of idiots. I hate the man with a passion.
Give some examples of where he actually lied and didn't just bend the truth.
And none of that crap where he "tricked" people by putting the two Heston speeches together, that didn't look anything like one speech and I don't know anyone dumb enough to think it was.
You cant say that documentarys aren't supposed to be biased, look at "Supersize Me" do you think thats going to praise McDonalds?
Give some examples of where he actually lied and didn't just bend the truth.
How about... the title? "Bowling for Columbine" references how the killers were so nonchalant about what they were going to do that they even went to their early morning bowling class -- and then went and shot the school up.
Except that this is a lie. They skipped that class.
How about the scene where he walks into the bank, opens a bank account to get a free rifle, and has them hand him the rifle in the bank, and then asks, "isn't it a bad idea to hand people guns in a bank?"
It is. That is why they don't do it. The bank (stupidly) staged it at his request. They don't "hand people guns" -- they hand them certificates that they take down to the local gun store, pass their background checks, and then get the gun. In a gun store.
How about where he has an entire sequence about how these boys live right next to a Lockheed plant where they make nuclear missiles? It you raise kids right next to a nuclear weapon plant, shouldn't you expect them to be violent?
Except that this is a lie. They don't make weapons at that plant. They make rockets that launch communication sattelites.
There's lots more. Those are just the big ones off the top of my head.
I always took his work not as the truth, but to get you thinking. It seems people in America would rather just listen to someone else than think on their own.
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