Bin Laden Surrendered to authorities....

[1stdeadeye]

You didn't read the 911 commission report? They said no ties whatsoever can be found with the Saudi Governement and Al Quieda....

In case y'all didn't notice, AL Queda wants to OVERTHROW the Saudi gov't! The Saudi Gov't is not going to fund them. It's the charities in Saudi Arabia that were funnelling money to Bin Laden in the greatest amounts!

[SlartyBartFast]

You didn't read the 911 commission report? They said no ties whatsoever can be found with the Saudi Governement and Al Quieda....

You can't read what's blacked out. The US senator as much as openly stated on the CBC report that every blacked out line and page covered the Bush, Saudi Royal Family, Bin Laden family, and Al-Quieda connections.

[SCpoloRicker]

stupid Michael Moore.... Now all us old skool liberals have our own new breed of weirdos.

I would assume that Saudi Arabia does not support AQ, or BL. The Saudi regime/govt is one of the main enemies of AQ and BL. They have been actively engaged in hostilities for several years.

The saudi ties detailed in House of Saud relate to business relations between the Bush family and Saudi royals. Not political connections per se...

Speaking of conspiracies, y'all hear about the potential for elections to be postponed if a major terror incident occurs near Nov. Bush has had legal eagles to look into it...

[cphilip]

You can't read what's blacked out. The US senator as much as openly stated on the CBC report that every blacked out line and page covered the Bush, Saudi Royal Family, Bin Laden family, and Al-Quieda connections.

That is not true. Go read it. There is no blanked out pages in that last release of interm report. Clearly says no government ties can be found. Get your facts from facts. Not what you "hear"...

[taylor492]

Ya, in one of the countries Bush won't attack or hold accountable and has never blamed.

BAHAHAHA!!!


OMG You took that F-911 crap, hook line and sinker


YOU=GULLABLE

[SlartyBartFast]

BAHAHAHA!!!


OMG You took that F-911 crap, hook line and sinker


YOU=GULLABLE

Umm no.

You swallowed the Republican/Whithouse propaganda, hook line and sinker.

YOU=GULLABLE

I've not seen F9-11. Don't know if I want to bother, don't like Moore.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/index.html

[taylor492]

Umm no.

You swallowed the Republican/Whithouse propaganda, hook line and sinker.

YOU=GULLABLE

I've not seen F9-11. Don't know if I want to bother, don't like Moore.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/index.html

Ok Ok, ya got me. I spend all my spare time reading any kind of right-wing publication i can get my hands on. And ya know what else is true. Pres. Bush is an evil person who has secret combinations with Saudi thugs that in exchange for american lives and a blind eye he can increase his bank account.

[SlartyBartFast]

Ok Ok, ya got me. I spend all my spare time reading any kind of right-wing publication i can get my hands on. And ya know what else is true. Pres. Bush is an evil person who has secret combinations with Saudi thugs that in exchange for american lives and a blind eye he can increase his bank account.

And what makes you think I'd subscribe to any of that nonsense? Are you incapable of absorbing nuanced view points or understanding that politics and human nature are not black or white/good or evil?

There's a HUGE range between good and evil and few absolute truths.

Small minds label and base their outlook on simplistic dogma and rhetoric. That goes for Moore and Limbaugh.

[taylor492]

And what makes you think I'd subscribe to any of that nonsense?

Ya, in one of the countries Bush won't attack or hold accountable and has never blamed.

You just answered your own question.

[SlartyBartFast]

You just answered your own question.

Saudi Arabia has a LOT to answer for. If you can't see that you've got your head up your backend.

But, you wouldn't want to risk Saudi investment capital now would you.

And a link is pretty evident:

That's a far stronger link than the pathetic "evidence" of links between Saddam and al Qaeda.

And the reason that Osama hates the Saudi Royl family is because they asked the Americans to fight Saddam in the first gulf war and let them stay afterwards. MAJOR funding of Osama and the extremist religious movements he depends on for recruits came from the Saudi royals. The extremist religious movements are STILL funded with Saudi cash.

I don't believe in the conspiracy theories but I do believe it was partially mass incompetence. The rest, well...

And seven minutes of dumbfounded silence IS NOT what I want from my leader when my country is attacked.

[Warewolf50]

Ahh i see a very nice poitical argument thread coming up.

[RevBrown]

Ahh i see a very nice poitical argument thread coming up.

Well it's been a bit since we have had one. Couple days atleast

[taylor492]

Saudi Arabia has a LOT to answer for. If you can't see that you've got your head up your backend.

But, you wouldn't want to risk Saudi investment capital now would you.

And a link is pretty evident:



That's a far stronger link than the pathetic "evidence" of links between Saddam and al Qaeda.

And the reason that Osama hates the Saudi Royl family is because they asked the Americans to fight Saddam in the first gulf war and let them stay afterwards. MAJOR funding of Osama and the extremist religious movements he depends on for recruits came from the Saudi royals. The extremist religious movements are STILL funded with Saudi cash.

I don't believe in the conspiracy theories but I do believe it was partially mass incompetence. The rest, well...



And seven minutes of dumbfounded silence IS NOT what I want from my leader when my country is attacked.

Hmmm and if i look long enough too im sure i can find some website that supports anything i have to say.


Found a couple:

http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/florida/article/0,2071,NPDN_14910_2985640,00.html

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

And lets keep in mind hes not your leader. And i wouldnt call it dumbfounded silence, i call it keeping your cool in the midst of a bunch of elementary school kids.












p.s. im respectfully withdrawing from this discussion. i initially just wanted to convey how much i laughed when i read your original post, not get into another go-nowhere political discussion.

[SlartyBartFast]

Hmmm and if i look long enough too im sure i can find some website that supports anything i have to say.
Found a couple:

http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/florida/article/0,2071,NPDN_14910_2985640,00.html

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

And lets keep in mind hes not your leader. And i wouldnt call it dumbfounded silence, i call it keeping your cool in the midst of a bunch of elementary school kids.
p.s. im respectfully withdrawing from this discussion. i initially just wanted to convey how much i laughed when i read your original post, not get into another go-nowhere political discussion.

I could agree with a lot said in both those articles. I already said I can't stand Moore. Can't stand loons no matter what their political agenda is.

But they don't address the Saudi involvement.

And don't get me wrong. I'm happy everytime one of the terrorists is caught. But doesn't mean I'm in agreement with the approach, it's execution, or the priorities being used.

[1stdeadeye]

And seven minutes of dumbfounded silence IS NOT what I want from my leader when my country is attacked.

Bush getting up and running out without full details of what is going on makes so much more sense theny staying calm in front of little kids and gethering more info.

As for Al Queda, again, one of their stated goals is to overthrow the house of Saud so why would they support it?

Finally, Moore is full of crap about the business connections. As CNN already pointed out, Bush Sr. joined the board of a defense company 18 months after the House of Saud sold their interest in it. THat is as close as he came. I guess by his reasoning, Mobil is guilty of the Exxon Valdez spill then?