Radeon 9800P 128mb or GeForce 5900 128mb?

[teufelhunden]

Basically, as the topic states. Going into a new PC, specs will be something along the lines of 2.8C Pentium 4, gig of PC3200, 80x2 gb in RAID 0.

Insights? Thanks.

[MrHanky04]

geforce is betters

[teufelhunden]

That was super helpful man.


Any reasons why?

[Kellen_p8nt]

Well I personally prefer and use The Geforce cores.

couple reasons:
1. Its never failed me.
2.Its cost effective, in otherwords multiple companies make geforce cored video cards. It is intirerly your choice how much to spend in obtaining one of there cards. BFG makes a Geforce video card thats overclocked out of the box.

The one thing I have allways understood and use as a rule of thumb is that AMD CPu computers work better with Geforce vieo cards, in part because MOST AMD boards use northbridge/southbridge nVidia chipsets( nVidia makes the geforce core).

Intell computers do not have this. There motherboards use an intel designed northbridge/southbridge chipsets. The importance of this fact is that the southbridge shipset(i think) is in charge of video and such. SO I would recommend for Intel the Radeon Cored video card.

The one other reccomendation is to not buy the ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder. I have heard nothing but horrible things about it.

[Can_Opener]

Go for the 9800 pro, it outbenches the 5900 in almost all games. Does run a little hot though (all new video cards do though) , so make sure your case has decent cooling.

You are gonna need a quality power supply if you go with the 9800 pro, it sucks a lot of juice. A name brand of like 450 watts would work fantastic.

Link to the benches right here

On a side note-I'm using an amd based system with an abit nf7-s (an nforce 2 ultra 400 chipset motherboard, and a radeon 9800 pro 128mb and I get no problems). Another little tidbit, I wouldn't buy a pre-overclocked video card, because by doing so you may limit your own overclocking headroom.

[Havoc_online]

listen to Kellen....


(Must brag on new system I'm building )

AMD FX53 (939pin)
ASUS A8V Deluxe K8T800Pro
(2x512MB) Kingston HyperX CL2.0 Non-ECC PC3200 DDR400
(2x200GB) Western Digital SATA 7200rpm
Sony 8x dual layer dvd-/+R/RW
Sony 52xcdrw/16xdvd
BFG Nvidia 6800GT
Thermaltake Tsunami case w/Thermaltake 420W

[teufelhunden]

On a side note-I'm using an amd based system with an abit nf7-s (an nforce 2 ultra 400 chipset motherboard, and a radeon 9800 pro 128mb and I get no problems). Another little tidbit, I wouldn't buy a pre-overclocked video card, because by doing so you may limit your own overclocking headroom.

How's a Raidmax 420watt?


And yeah, I'm probably just gonna get an ATI brand card... unless you can suggest something else.

[fire1811]

i have owned from both companies and i personally prefer ATI.

i have a 9800XT right now and love it

and it only takes up the AGP slot if you use the nividia card it will take one of your pci slots away also.

you shouldnt fill that slot since it next to your video card anyway but it still takes up more room.

[Skoad]

if your not in a rush I would wait for the new PCI Express slotted mobo's and video cards come out. They are mucho faster than AGP

they might even be out now, i haven't really kept up in the pc parts lately.

[Restola]

The only reason to wait for PCI express is if you want prices to drop on the current technology.

[Jonneh]

I hear a lot of people say to wait for PCI Excpress to come out (properly), but I don't think people realise that due to the MASSIVE performance increase, manufacturers will probably put a HUGE markup on it, just because they can.

I say go with the Radeon, I have the same card and it works very well, although I'm sure anything this high end will not dissapoint.

[Echo419]

get the damn p4 2.8E prescott processor
it fuxin pwns, plus its overlcokable to like 3.4~3.7

[bornl33t]

I have a 9600 AIW 128 it's a sweet card. I dunno why ppl always get down on the aiw's so far it's been dreamy with only one complaint. ANY application that uses the tv tuner automaticaly launches ATI's tv software. Which is obnoxious to say the least. But that's a software issue and does not effect the cards performance.

what's raid 0 again? mirror hd or synced?

[Can_Opener]

Raidmax power supplies come bundled with cases, and are usually pretty cheap. It might work, if it doesn't, pick up another power supply and put it in. I'm using a thermaltake silent purepower 480 watt, and it is working fine, some other notable companies are Antec, Enermax, Fortron Source/Sparkle Power, and PC Power and Cooling (PC P&C power supplies are EXTREMELY expensive though).

And the reason why people get down on the all-in-wonders is because they draw a lot of power from the +5 volt rail when the system starts. So much that quality power supplies that have overvoltage protection will shut down your computer thinking that there is a problem. Their performance is great though.

[teufelhunden]

get the damn p4 2.8E prescott processor
it fuxin pwns, plus its overlcokable to like 3.4~3.7

I was told to go with a 2.8C because they run cooler and therefore overclock better.

And RAID 0 is striping.