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The smoke trails should be straight as can be, since the aircraft is in afterburner. The small vapor trails coming from below the cockpit wouldn't form before a huge vapor cloud has formed over the wings, since the wings would create a larger negative atmosphere area sooner.
Still...nice pic.
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personman
pwnt.Originally posted by ArmyBad photochop
The smoke trails should be straight as can be, since the aircraft is in afterburner. The small vapor trails coming from below the cockpit wouldn't form before a huge vapor cloud has formed over the wings, since the wings would create a larger negative atmosphere area sooner.
Still...nice pic.Comment
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Willystyle21
Looks like somebody took a pic of 2 model rockets shooting off and cropped in the "Lawn Dart" . Hate those planes anyhow............Comment
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May be a photoshop with the moon, but the vapor patterns off the wing and the smoke trails are consistent with an F-16 pulling high G's. I've seen the same thing in a lot of F-16 pics. In pics of F-14s and F-15s the vapor shows up over the whole wing, but on F-16s you usually see what is in RoadDawgs pic. The smoke trails off the wings are from "smokewinders" used for airshows. Here is another example showing the same vapor/smoke trails.Originally posted by ArmyBad photochop
The smoke trails should be straight as can be, since the aircraft is in afterburner. The small vapor trails coming from below the cockpit wouldn't form before a huge vapor cloud has formed over the wings, since the wings would create a larger negative atmosphere area sooner.
Still...nice pic.
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So your saying the Associated Press photochopped this picture? Interesting. None the less I love these planes. I grew watching them at Hill Air Force Base everytime the Thunderbirds came to town.Originally posted by ArmyBad photochop
The smoke trails should be straight as can be, since the aircraft is in afterburner. The small vapor trails coming from below the cockpit wouldn't form before a huge vapor cloud has formed over the wings, since the wings would create a larger negative atmosphere area sooner.
Still...nice pic.
Here's excerpt for those that hadn't clicked the link.
A F-16 military jet from the Belgian Air Forces flies inverted past the moon during a demonstration flight at the airshow Air 04 in Payerne, Switzerland, Sunday, Sept. 5, 2004. The airshow is one of the biggest in Europe this year, showing top international and national flying teams. (AP Photo/Keystone, Fabrice Coffrini)Sorry, I'm oldComment
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My thoughts exactly. I noticed there were no head fins on the missles. AIM-9 sidewinders have a very characteristic head. I don't think the moon is chopped in either. The vapor makes an effect on the color of the moon quite nicely, something a photochopper probably would have left out.but the vapor patterns off the wing and the smoke trails are consistent with an F-16 pulling high G's. I've seen the same thing in a lot of F-16 pics. In pics of F-14s and F-15s the vapor shows up over the whole wing, but on F-16s you usually see what is in RoadDawgs pic. The smoke trails off the wings are from "smokewinders" used for airshows.Comment
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Looks pretty accurate to me. But then again, maybe its the liberal media trying to brainwash us.Originally posted by ArmyBad photochop
The smoke trails should be straight as can be, since the aircraft is in afterburner. The small vapor trails coming from below the cockpit wouldn't form before a huge vapor cloud has formed over the wings, since the wings would create a larger negative atmosphere area sooner.
Still...nice pic.Rooster "But such is the mentallity of the Arab people. Which is why as long as there are Arabs, there will be a terrorist problem."
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Look again. Your aircraft is doing a "gear up" slow pass. See the forward slats extended, and the elevator clawing for air? A high G pass would still have the smoke out straight, since you won't get high G's without high speed.Originally posted by BlennidaeMay be a photoshop with the moon, but the vapor patterns off the wing and the smoke trails are consistent with an F-16 pulling high G's. I've seen the same thing in a lot of F-16 pics. In pics of F-14s and F-15s the vapor shows up over the whole wing, but on F-16s you usually see what is in RoadDawgs pic. The smoke trails off the wings are from "smokewinders" used for airshows. Here is another example showing the same vapor/smoke trails.
Head knight of Ni, Those are known as "Smokewinders", only used for show (see above quote).
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Its possible that the first pic is a gear up pass. However I respectfully disagree with your comment that high G requires high speed. I don't know if you have ever seen the Blue Angels in their F-18's. One of the solo manuevers is to do a high G pull up as soon as the gear is up. Of course take off speed for an F-18 is not slow by any stretch of the imagination, but if they had smokewinders going, the trail would look simillar. If you hit a brick wall at 30mph, you aren't moving fast, but you will sure pull a lot of G's.Originally posted by ArmyLook again. Your aircraft is doing a "gear up" slow pass. See the forward slats extended, and the elevator clawing for air? A high G pass would still have the smoke out straight, since you won't get high G's without high speed.
I found another pic of an F-16 with the same smoke/vapor pattern. This one looks to be at the bottom of a loop. He would be pulling a fair amount of G, and be traveling at a good rate of speed. Not much deflection on the elevators. I believe the leading edge devices on an F-16 will deploy whenever the flight control software tells them to.
The whole idea behind the smokewinders are to wow the crowd with the angle the F-16 can fly in regards to the angle of the air flowing over it.
I guess what I am trying to get at is that I really don't think the original pic is photoshopped. There are just way too many pics out there of F-16s pulling G's showing the same patterns.
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Afterburners on does not automatically translate to high speed. He might of just kicked them in right there.Originally posted by ArmyBad photochop
The smoke trails should be straight as can be, since the aircraft is in afterburner. The small vapor trails coming from below the cockpit wouldn't form before a huge vapor cloud has formed over the wings, since the wings would create a larger negative atmosphere area sooner.
Still...nice pic.
Does anyone know under what conditions vapor trails form at the LERXs? I think it has something to do with AOA, but im not sure.Comment
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Is everyone missing the fact that the back end of a wing creates a vortex or swirling motion of air? This would make the smoke move in different directions as opposed to just shooting straight out the back, which in fact would make the first pic totally possible.Comment





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