Them Nazi's were some sharply dressed folks

[SlartyBartFast]

Yeah it does help install pride and group idenity. But are you gonna tell me if you take the sword and dress blues away from the Marines that they will no longer be good disciplined soldiers?

Actually, yes.

That or you have to replace the sword polishing and swinging with some other mindless drill to instill attention to detail, precision, and group identity.

[PyRo]

Do they have any idea how to use the swords?

[SlartyBartFast]

Do they have any idea how to use the swords?

http://www.marines.com/about_marines/thesword.asp

And I think you certainly need to know how to handle them for this:

http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Archive%20News%20Pages/2003/030314-kali.html

But, I'm sure I've seen the cerimonial sword used in drills.

[Mister Sinister]

Actually, yes.

That or you have to replace the sword polishing and swinging with some other mindless drill to instill attention to detail, precision, and group identity.

I was agreeing you do need something to instill pride... but my point was it doesnt have to be a sword. For that matter the Marines stress excelling at anything you do no matter how mindless or menial whether its polishing a sword or peeling a potato thats the discipline.

[BrockSampson]

the lugar pistol was more of a show piece than a functioning combat firearm.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. The Luger was an extremely effective sidearm. The caliber was a little small, but it was very accurate and reliable when maintained. It was not meant as a primary combat weapon, since that's what rifles are for, but it did what it was intended to do very well.

[HoppysMag]

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. The Luger was an extremely effective sidearm. The caliber was a little small, but it was very accurate and reliable when maintained. It was not meant as a primary combat weapon, since that's what rifles are for, but it did what it was intended to do very well.

the lugar was underpowered and jammed under actual combat conditions. theres a reason the US army decided against it ( a special 45 caliber model)

" when well maintained" isnt good enough for a weapon on wich one life rely. the walther was viewed as a more reliable and easyer to produce design.

[BrockSampson]

I've been in the military for over 12 years now, so I know quite a bit about putting my life in the hands of a weapon. Every gun the US has used in actual combat has jammed at one point or another, and yes, they all must be maintained in order to function properly. It doesn't make them bad guns, it's simply inevitable given the conditions they are subjected to. This wasn't a Walther vs. Luger vs. blah blah debate thread, and I won't continue it as such. I discovered long ago that trying to argue with someone younger and less experienced than myself is often pointless if they think they've already got all the answers...

[HoppysMag]

ok what ever. play the age card. i was never doubting the lugar i simply stated the pistol was viewd as a status icon, you may have been in the military for 12 years and may be older than me. but il take the history channels, profesionaly published pistol reviews and the big book of small arms word on this subject over yours... sorry.

[oldsoldier]

You want to read a good book on the German army, and their training, read "Soldat". It is an autobiography of a 16 year old, enlisting into germany's wehrmacht. Excellent book...goes through their training, and discipline.
And, the uniforms do instil pride. As much as a PITA it can be to make them presentable, it makes you feel good to wear them. People recognize a soldier (Sailor, airman, marine), by thier dress uniforms; and, within the services (well, the army, anyway), people can be VERY critical of each others uniforms. Hell, the Army Times runs at LEAST one column per issue that critiques some soldier's uniform from each previous issue. I am sure the other services, and their corresponding rags, do the same.

[BrockSampson]

You were right, and I stand corrected. From now on, I'll try to form my opinions from personal experience, rather than being a mindless drone of the media.

Why thank you! That was quite mature and insightful of you. I shall put you out now.

[Target Practice]

Hooray for the Venture Bros.

[Konigballer]

of course the germans were sharply dressed, the bad guys always look cooler. Its like a rule of warfare. Cobra always looked cooler than stupid GI JOE and they're "come as you are" dress code. Chuckles wore a hawaiian shirt for god's sake.

The krauts looked cooler in both world wars, its like they're consolation prize for losing.

[HoppysMag]

Why thank you! That was quite mature and insightful of you. I shall put you out now.

insite this, **** yourself.

[BobTheCow]

Enjoy your 3 days, HoppysMag.

of course the germans were sharply dressed, the bad guys always look cooler. Its like a rule of warfare. Cobra always looked cooler than stupid GI JOE and they're "come as you are" dress code. Chuckles wore a hawaiian shirt for god's sake.

Truer words have never been spoken!!! Ninja Turtles vs. the Foot... although they were turtles, and a rat, so that was kind of cool.

[SlartyBartFast]

but il take the history channels, profesionaly published pistol reviews and the big book of small arms word on this subject over yours... sorry.

I'd take a soldier's view of weapons over any one else's. And PLEASE don't take the History channel seriously. That would be like watching TLC to actually learn something indepth.

Their latest on the war of 1812 was pathetic. Perhaps it was only the promos, their website isn't too attrocious but there's a lot of revisionism in there too.

And by the way, circumventing the curse filter is a no-no.