Who won the debate?

[hAppy]

I think Bush had no idea what the hell he was talking about. Kerry was whiping his butt all over the place.

Anyways....
I have a question!
What does Bush and Kerry each support when it comes down to War in Iraq, and terrorism? I barely caught their ideas.

[Glickman]

decent thinkers will think kerry,
deep thinkers who are looking so deep, their ankle deep in **** say bush


ive heard such idiot stuff about "looking deeper" into the debate to see how bush won.

bush is very good at talking when he has it written infront of him, but as soon as hes taken off of that, hes pretty bad compared to kerry.

while the whole thing was eventually repetative, bush repeated himself like 75% more times then kerry

but bush had much more substitance



so....


Kerry r0x0red bush
although i still would vote for bush

(we done need a pansy, non decisive president)

[PyRo]

Who won the debatel????

I did!!!!!!!!!!!

[BrockSampson]

There should be a "neither" option in that poll.

[MrWallen]

Doesn't matter who won, all that matters is who lost: US.

[Miscue]

I watched it again and turned my brain off. If I focus on rhetoric and speaking ability, Kerry did a better job. If someone was watching the debates and had no idea what was going on beforehand - this person should pick Kerry.

Who had the best debate, and who was right - are separate items.

[t33kyboy]

Sometimes bush just goes blank for a couple seconds... its kinda funny

[Konigballer]

anybody who is not a blind fanatic for either candidate, or ideology, would have to say Kerry owned Bush in the debate. Whether that matters in the long run is very debatable.... , but horrible puns aside, you get my point.

Kerry's been doing this since highschool and, on the debate floor, comes of as more articulate, more intelligent, and more composed than the president....but that does'nt mean Bush won't win the election, since most americans are'nt these things either. Thats why people are able to identify with Bush more I guess, he seems like a "rugular guy"

I still think Bush will win come election day but I will give Kerry the victory for this debate. Either way, it gives The Daily Show plenty of fodder

[Lohman446]

I watched most of it, and your right that Kerry was far and away better at this if you look at it from an Oxford debate team standpoint.

Ever watch the Water cooler, it ran for like two weeks on SPIKE. Bush is on it, and all of the sudden his accent drops and he talks like some British aristocrat with an impossibly high IQ, he explains his other voice is "for the people" Funny as hell, but a lot of Americans don't like politicians. Kerry talks smooth, elegantly, and seems "perfect" in his speech. He looks and sounds like the classic "used car salesman / lawyer / politician" that American's love to hate. And Edwards afterwards did not take that edge off. Honestly I think Kerry needed someone who could take that edge off him, and make him seem more likeable.

Agree on the issues or not its obvious on one thing - Kerry came away a winner in the debate, but to a lot of people I am sure that Bush came across as more likeable. And what motivates people to vote - if it was at all intentional... well the one thing Kerry did that hurt him in my opinion was bringing up WMD, a couple other issues, looking at Bush and saying "its simply not true". He in essence called him a liar, when Bush looked back at him and said "we looked at the same intelligence" - if Bush had any hope in that debate, it was that moment.

Now a lot of people may think Im an idiot for looking into this deeper. The truth, I beleive that all politicians are manipulative, and look at everything they do as possibly manipulation, this may very well have been.

[BobTheCow]

Did anybody else notice what seemed to be Bush's only argument/rebuttal? "Do you want an incosistent President?" Somebody must have pounded into his head just beforehand that he needed to keep coming back to that whole flip-flop crap... and he sure did. Kerry owned him.

[guysdaman]

Yea I watched it and to be honest I could care less as I am voting for neither of them. Last election it was the lesser of 2 evils with Bush and Gore. For this election, in good consience, I can't vote for either of those 2 boobs...so i'll vote independant.

Just my .02 cents.

[mirthvader]

All those debates measure is who is a better public speaker. Big deal. Do you honestly believe anything either of them say? If a poll says "the people think this", then the politicians start twisting their policies to match the polls. It's all about getting votes, not leading the country.

[scarpa43]

I said Kerry simply because he brought new information to the table, he started talking about he possitions on issues. I still do not think he would be a good president, and I am sure his wife would not make a good first wife.

I seem to remember several times when Kerry was asked how he would do something he would reply "I'll tell you exactly how I would do that, but first....." and then not get to telling "exactly how he would do that"

Did anyone else see that?

Also, what did Kerry keep writing down as Bush spoke? I wonder if his handlers told him to make it look like he was making notes on what Bush said so that his responses did not look rehearsed, like he was making a well spoken reply to something he had not been coached on.

[BobTheCow]

Also, what did Kerry keep writing down as Bush spoke? I wonder if his handlers told him to make it look like he was making notes on what Bush said so that his responses did not look rehearsed, like he was making a well spoken reply to something he had not been coached on.

...is it really fair to automatically assume that he was putting on a show? Ya know, it is possible to find somebody every once in a while that's capable of thinking on their own. Not saying I know for sure Kerry was, just pointing out it was a possibility. *shrugs*

[PissedGodzilla]

...is it really fair to automatically assume that he was putting on a show? Ya know, it is possible to find somebody every once in a while that's capable of thinking on their own. Not saying I know for sure Kerry was, just pointing out it was a possibility. *shrugs*

I agree ... god forbid people think Kerry might actually know what he is doing up there... lol

This was a landslide victory for Kerry and the Democrats.. I know alot of Republicans that are now shakin in their cowboy boots