And this is why Canada sucks!!!

[OysterBoy]

If you want to punch yourself in the groin everytime you meet someone from "Western" society, Im guessing that makes for long and paintful days. Since you changed it from "American" to "Western" its certainly less inflamitory, but believe me when I say that, in general, Western society>Eastern society.

..Eye of the beholder, buddy. In my opinion we could learn a thing or 2 from Euro's. And Asia (Modernized Asia, or Westernized Asia). While they may be the bastard child of a thousand year old culture and a newer, less 'classy' culture, something about it works. What I do know, is that our culture has some serious flaws.

[Steelrat]

I'm guessing Nelson is the Canadian equivilant of the People's Republic of Berkeley in California.

[SlartyBartFast]

Canadians in general are very honest, good people.

And so are MOST Americans. AO has it's mix of both good and bad.

[Steelrat]

..Eye of the beholder, buddy. In my opinion we could learn a thing or 2 from Euro's. And Asia (Modernized Asia, or Westernized Asia). While they may be the bastard child of a thousand year old culture and a newer, less 'classy' culture, something about it works. What I do know, is that our culture has some serious flaws.

Europeans are western society. *Again edited due to poor phrasing on my part*

[taylor492]

Nothing to do with it. Only the scummiest pieces of filth would consider celebrating the death of any innocent human being.

Your example is all the more heiinous because you suggest that some dumb trigger happy moron who can't follow orders and caused the death of good soldiers should be glorified.

If you were a soldier that went to Vietnam in the place of a draft dodger, IMO, you should have the following reactions: Pride in your own service (if it was honourable), and pride that you live a country so democratic and accepting that the dodgers were pardoned.

mm i think it has everyting to do with it. How many of those soldiers didnt come home because of draft-dodgers. And your hypocritial nature shows through calling those pilots "trigger happy morons who can't follow orders and caused the death of good soldiers".
I didnt know you were at the scene when it happened? Thats interesting, why dont you give us a rundown, seeing as how you were there and know exactly how it went down.

[SlartyBartFast]

One guy started the thread, so that gives you a free pass to ridicule all Americans? Go to www.websters.com and look up "hypocrite."

Go to Webster's and look up "Dense".

Where did I ridicule all Americans?

[Zygote]

believe me when I say that, in general, Western society>Eastern society.

That's the most ethnocentric crap I've read all day

[SlartyBartFast]

mm i think it has everyting to do with it. How many of those soldiers didnt come home because of draft-dodgers. And your hypocritial nature shows through calling those pilots "trigger happy morons who can't follow orders and caused the death of good soldiers".
I didnt know you were at the scene when it happened? Thats interesting, why dont you give us a rundown, seeing as how you were there and know exactly how it went down.

And some soldiers may not have come home because G.W. was doing his finest cruising around doing as little as possible. Hope you're out campaigning against him.

Some people may have been sent to Vietnam because of the draft dodgers, sure. But anyone that complains about that is as bad as the dodgers. They wish someelse had gone in their place.

Did you not read or see any of the reports of the trial/inquiry and jerk-off attitude of that pilot? He was ordered out of the area by the AWACS. The rules of engagement told him to get out of there. But, he wanted to blow something up. Pilots usually get given their nickname for a reason. That pilot certainly lived up to his.

And calling the pilots of one plane jerks makes me a hypocrite? Are you some sort of mental midget who thinks insulting specific people or things is an insult against 250 odd million Americans?

But then again it seems to be beyond your capacity to understand that what one small town does in Canada doesn't necessarily reflect the ideas and standards of the entire country.

[SlartyBartFast]

That's the most ethnocentric crap I've read all day

Wait for it. Rooster hasn't said anything yet.

[Steelrat]

I can see where that could seem ethnocentric, but that was not my intention. I aplogize if it came accross that way.

[Steelrat]

Go to Webster's and look up "Dense".

Where did I ridicule all Americans?

Honestly. A thread is started that lumps Canadians into one bunch and then belittles the death of soldiers and proclaims hatred of us, and Canadians have to play nice with you?

I had responded to oysterboy saying that he didn't like Americans. You defended that with your above mentioned comment. So, in essense, you were saying it was okay to talk bad about Americans because someone said something bad about Canadians. That seemed hypociritcal to me.

[taylor492]

And some soldiers may not have come home because G.W. was doing his finest cruising around doing as little as possible. Hope you're out campaigning against him.

Some people may have been sent to Vietnam because of the draft dodgers, sure. But anyone that complains about that is as bad as the dodgers. They wish someelse had gone in their place.

Did you not read or see any of the reports of the trial/inquiry and jerk-off attitude of that pilot? He was ordered out of the area by the AWACS. The rules of engagement told him to get out of there. But, he wanted to blow something up. Pilots usually get given their nickname for a reason. That pilot certainly lived up to his.

And calling the pilots of one plane jerks makes me a hypocrite? Are you some sort of mental midget who thinks insulting specific people or things is an insult against 250 odd million Americans?

But then again it seems to be beyond your capacity to understand that what one small town does in Canada doesn't necessarily reflect the ideas and standards of the entire country.

GWB was in the Texas Air National Guard. He very well couldve been called up to duty. And i dont remember where flying jets around wasnt a dangerous thing. I have friends in the National Guard and the Reserves and i consider them no less heroic just because they havent been shot at.

And no, soldiers complaining is not as bad as draft dodgers. Noone wants to go to war but these guys were called and went. Now they have someone celebrating those cowards.


I admitted my earlier comment was too harsh and thats all i have to say about that.

[PyRo]

Want to have a competition of which country has the most yahoo idiots? Considering California has a bigger population than Canada, I think the US beats in shear numbers of looney bin candidates living on the left coast.

Canada, like the US is a free country. People can celebrate and build statues for whatever they want. Doesn't mean CANADA is organising it.

Percentage wise Canada has the most idiots. And CANADA is organizing it, it is your government, not one person.

[PyRo]

If you were a soldier that went to Vietnam in the place of a draft dodger, IMO, you should have the following reactions: Pride in your own service (if it was honourable), and pride that you live a country so democratic and accepting that the dodgers were pardoned.

I for one would proud to live in this country if we were understanding enough to pardon everyone in our prisons.

[LunchBox89]

guys stop flaming i think the statue is stupid and im canadian i didnt have a say in it if you wish you can start a patition and send it to the goverment they have to bring it up during the next commfrence and maybe they will do something about it we are all human beings who cares where we live i live across a lake from the USA.