Nissan SIL-80 Phase 1 Complete

[pumaking]

I cant see spening the time on a sr20 or the ca18. If you are going to spend the time the rb25 or 26 are great swaps. If you search hard enough you can find them for a reasonible price.

Yes they are great swaps but its not an easy drop in like the Sr20 and CA18 a Rb26 swap can fetch you $7000 and produce about 330hp as opposed to me spending $1100 on a CA18 and parts an accesories of say like $4000 in parts I can still produce more hp with the CA18 and it would cost a few G's less not to mention with the RB long blocks there needs to be modifying of the car in order to fit.

[Dubstar112]

What do you plan on doing for suspension, rims and tires? Is your current motor turbo? I dont know alot of the motor stuff for Nissan... If it is do you use a turbo timer(what model etc.)? Is this a daily driver? I havent got around to doing that yet for my car, just looking for some advice!

[GT]

Yes they are great swaps but its not an easy drop in like the Sr20 and CA18 a Rb26 swap can fetch you $7000 and produce about 330hp as opposed to me spending $1100 on a CA18 and parts an accesories of say like $4000 in parts I can still produce more hp with the CA18 and it would cost a few G's less not to mention with the RB long blocks there needs to be modifying of the car in order to fit.

I could be wrong,
but nissian swaps are nothing like honda swaps, essentially requiring an entire front clip. Dunno, for me I would go for the 25/26. cost is always an issue, nice car

[pumaking]

What do you plan on doing for suspension, rims and tires? Is your current motor turbo? I dont know alot of the motor stuff for Nissan... If it is do you use a turbo timer(what model etc.)? Is this a daily driver? I havent got around to doing that yet for my car, just looking for some advice!

For suspension not gonna go crazy but I found some a suspension kit for $500 that come with lowering springs and coil overs something nice, My current motor is a KA24E SOHC and doesnt have a turbo. When I do the motor swap it comes with a turbo Garret T25 which isnt that big but gets the job done eventually I'll upgrade to a bigger turbo since the CA18 can handle a lot of boost. This car will be a daily driver.

[pumaking]

I could be wrong,
but nissian swaps are nothing like honda swaps, essentially requiring an entire front clip. Dunno, for me I would go for the 25/26. cost is always an issue, nice car

It depends on which motor you get for Example all RB series motors if your doing a swap into a 240sx than you need the front clip, if its a motor such as a KA24, CA18DET, SR20DET than you really dont need the front clip because most early nissan cars are actually interchangble so you dont need the front clip but it doesnt hurt either incase you need parts.

[LeatherPants]

The RB swap is not really a good swap in to a 240sx frame. The SR is much more balanced and was designed for the chassie to begin with. I have a couple friends who did the RB25 swap and are not that happy with it.

The SR has way more parts available to it compared to the CA. I wouldn't say the motor is bulletproof it has the same potential for damage like the SR. But the ease of finding upgrades is a big plus for the SR.

You do not need a complete front clip but it usually makes it easier. You will need the JDM radiator and brackets. Also if you are going the cheap route you will need the stock intercooler and piping as well as other misc parts. You can alter the USDM harness but it is easier to use the JDM one. You will also need the ECU.


I did a SR swap 3 years ago and at the time put on every bolt on part that HKS made for it. It was a beater car so I opted not to change turbo, cams or touch the block. The stock T25 pretty much maxes out on 1 bar of boost even with a FMIC. From there you run in to fuel issues with the stock injectors. I have my engine pic in another thread.

Ah I remember my car days. My friend used to import motors from Japan. I got a complete S13 blacktop clip for $1400 and a complete rear end for $50 (LSD). I never got around to building a S14.

If you ever have questions about HKS parts feel free to ask. There were my primary sponsor so I've pretty much used most of what they make from suspension to electronics.

[pumaking]

Daytime pics.

[skife]

if you really want good cheap power.

do a 350 chevy / 350 th swap

sbc parts are DIRT cheap, for the 7k you'd spend on that motor with 330 hp, you could have a 400+ hp 350 chevy.

[PyRo]

For 7k you better be getting more than 400hp out of a 350. With that buget step it up a a 400.

[pumaking]

if you really want good cheap power.

do a 350 chevy / 350 th swap

sbc parts are DIRT cheap, for the 7k you'd spend on that motor with 330 hp, you could have a 400+ hp 350 chevy.

or I could buy the CA18DET for $1100 put about $2500 into the motor and get around 500hp but my goal is only to get 300hp to the wheels.

[Dubstar112]

or I could buy the CA18DET for $1100 put about $2500 into the motor and get around 500hp but my goal is only to get 300hp to the wheels.

Well, atleast you have reasonable goals. Some people I know just keep trying to add power and dont know how to drive. You should tell them that its not all about 1000 hp

I have 195 crank ponies, my goal is 250 at all 4 wheels with out the use of nitrous. Im hoping that by eliminating the 4ws I will gain better whp, and by boosting around 20 psi (approx 1.5 bar) I will achieve this.

Pumaking, do you know what the stock 16g can boost?

(not intending to thread hijack- but this place is better than most car forums full of 15 year olds!)

[LeatherPants]

or I could buy the CA18DET for $1100 put about $2500 into the motor and get around 500hp but my goal is only to get 300hp to the wheels.

Actually $2500 isn't enough for those numbers. I'm just giving you an idea what it normally cost to build up. This is based on retail pricing on a range of HKS, Blitz and Apex'i parts. I'm guessing you will be doing all your own installation also. Most of this stuff is really easy to install either way.

FMIC- $1400-2000
Down Pipe- $120-250
3" Exhaust- $450-600
300zxTT Fuel Pump- $300
Intake- $100-350
BOV- $250-400
Additional AL Piping- $300-600
Boost Controller- $400-700

Basic total- $3320-5200

That's not even touching the turbo yet. That's pretty much the most basic setup for decent power out of the stock turbo.

[Dubstar112]

yieks!

why are intercoolers so expensive?

a radiator on roids!

Why would you want a v8?!? Whatever way he wants to build his car is not supposed to be right or wrong, its his car his build, his own way. .

[pumaking]

you sure those are right prices for intercooler unless your including some extra stuff with that I dont know of b/c I've found Spearco intercoolers for $350 and Blitz intercoolers for $650

[skife]

yieks!

why are intercoolers so expensive?

a radiator on roids!

Why would you want a v8?!? Whatever way he wants to build his car is not supposed to be right or wrong, its his car his build, his own way. .

why a V8?

sound/power/the ease of working on one/the price of parts.

you can get a decent cam for a 350 chevy for around $150
pair of good headers is $200
intake is 200
carb is 200
and you could be pushing 400 hp right there.