Canadian town donates $10k to Tsunami, wants it back for firework display.

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  • PyRo
    President Bioloaf inc.
    • Dec 2000
    • 10186

    #16
    Originally posted by Steelrat
    If I lost any of my loved ones, there is NO amount that could possibly replace them. To state that the payouts were "disgusting" and a "financial windfall" is incredibly insensitive. I'm sure that, given the chance, those people would gladly give the money back if they could be with their loved ones again. I don't know about you, but when I donate money (and I do donate money, do you?) I don't set conditions on my dontation, other than making sure it goes to the victims.
    He is saying that they are getting more money than they should, and you are saying that no amount of money could replace them. Now why should they get more money than they lost? If giving them a lot of money was going to bring back the ones they lost then pile it on. The truth though is that it won't, so why should they get more than they need when their are others getting less than what they need?
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    I think as far as this disaster goes their is more than enough money already raised to cover it. Didn't they estimate damage around a billion dollars? I bet the three biggest contributing countries have that and some covered no problem, add in the rest and you're way over what they need.

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    • Jeffy-CanCon
      veteran rec player
      • May 2003
      • 1309

      #17
      That's a pretty bad story.

      Meadow Lake is a rather small town (4,500), and $10,000 is probably a lot of money for them. I would find it excusable if they were making some significant sacrifice when they agreed to make the donation, but it was from their fireworks budget.

      I've said it before, and this is the proof: to say that Canadians are "nice" is a national myth... we're not "nice", we're just polite.

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      • Steelrat
        I meant to...uh, nevermind
        • May 2003
        • 5375

        #18
        Originally posted by PyRo
        He is saying that they are getting more money than they should, and you are saying that no amount of money could replace them. Now why should they get more money than they lost? If giving them a lot of money was going to bring back the ones they lost then pile it on. The truth though is that it won't, so why should they get more than they need when their are others getting less than what they need?
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        I think as far as this disaster goes their is more than enough money already raised to cover it. Didn't they estimate damage around a billion dollars? I bet the three biggest contributing countries have that and some covered no problem, add in the rest and you're way over what they need.
        If people donated the money, just give it to the victims or their families. Its irrelevant if its too much, its what people felt like donating. Its not a question of who needs what, its what people gave.

        As for the tsunami, the aid agencies have said they don't need any more. I don't think that means that people should start asking for their donations back.


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        • PyRo
          President Bioloaf inc.
          • Dec 2000
          • 10186

          #19
          Originally posted by Steelrat
          As for the tsunami, the aid agencies have said they don't need any more. I don't think that means that people should start asking for their donations back.
          If they said they already have enough money then why do I still see all this tsunami relief stuff going around?
          I never said people should ask for their donations back. Maybie it would be a good idea however to tell people who want to donate to the tsunami relief that their is already more than enough money earmarked for the disaster and their are other people in need whom the money may better benifit.
          Last edited by PyRo; 01-28-2005, 09:34 PM.

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          • Steelrat
            I meant to...uh, nevermind
            • May 2003
            • 5375

            #20
            Originally posted by PyRo
            If they said they already have enough money then why do I still see all this tsunami relief stuff going around?
            I never said people should ask for their donations back, but maybie it would be a good idea to tell people when they want to donate to tell them that they have enough money earmarked for the disaster and their are other people in need that the money may be able to better benifit.
            I belive that is exactly what the major charities are doing. Check with the big groups (red cross, doctors without border) they have all stated that they no longer need donations for the tsunami. There will always be a few groups continuing to solicit donations.


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            • 1stdeadeye
              Still around????
              • Jun 2002
              • 8501

              #21
              Bwahahahaha!

              Look at the pretty colors, eh?

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              • Eric Cartman
                []*[]
                • Apr 2003
                • 779

                #22
                Originally posted by Acer12
                holy **** your canadian and you watch southpark thats awsome. we have one cool canadian here guys. Thats funny as **** that you watch southpark because they make so much fun of you guys. especially cartman
                Of course I do. It's funny stuff. South Park is huge here, just like the Simpsons and every other American show that takes pot shots at us (which is pretty much all of 'em)

                We can take a joke. We can dish 'em out too eh. Watch Rick Mercer go after Americans sometime . We just don't have many good TV shows , so you're not seeing American jokes like we see Canadian jokes.


                Back on topic, it's sad that a couple of tools on the town council screwed up. I'm sure if you asked the rest of the 5000 residents of that town, the majority would rather see the money go to the tsunami victims.
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                • Muzikman
                  Everything AGD
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 6229

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Steelrat
                  How about a car? Do you think that, if your new car is totaled, you get 100% of what you owe on it?

                  Actually...you do, or atleast in PA you do.

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                  • edweird
                    IP lawsuits > innovation
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 1859

                    #24
                    whats that in american? Like a buckfiddy?

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                    • Jeffy-CanCon
                      veteran rec player
                      • May 2003
                      • 1309

                      #25
                      Originally posted by edweird
                      whats that in american? Like a buckfiddy?
                      $8,068

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Steelrat
                        If people donated the money, just give it to the victims or their families. Its irrelevant if its too much, its what people felt like donating. Its not a question of who needs what, its what people gave.

                        As for the tsunami, the aid agencies have said they don't need any more. I don't think that means that people should start asking for their donations back.

                        The point to me is this - when a disaster occurs people rush to aid those victims. If you had called doctors without borders shortly after the tsunami they would have told you that they had raised all the money needed to help those in the tsunami, but they would gladly except your donation for funding or expenses in other ares - they just did not want you to think your money was going to the tsunami victims.

                        Why did the Red Cross, after 9/11 suddenly have enough money for a lavish remodeling of the director's office? When you donate to the Red Cross, or the United Way you are seldom making earmarked donations to a certain cause - only if the press is following exactly what went in and the Red Cross is being open with it. Let me give you this scenario, if the public and the media had no idea how much money had been taken in for 9/11 do you think the Red Cross would have given as much out to help the victims families? Would they have used this for other expenses? What if they told you this money might be funding there criticism of the war in Iraq? I'm not saying don't criticize or that this is wrong, but I think it would have hindered there donations. I'm not saying that using the funds for something other than the latest disastor is wrong. I realize there are other expenses and it is a good idea by these organizations to save money and be ready to rapidly respond to the next event... I just applaud groups like doctors without borders who tell you in the wake of a disastor what they are doing with your money, rather than telling you they are raising money for one thing and then, if you don't actually earmark your donation in a legal manner, possibly using it for something else.
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                        • mcveighr
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 861

                          #27
                          Back on topic, it's sad that a couple of tools on the town council screwed up. I'm sure if you asked the rest of the 5000 residents of that town, the majority would rather see the money go to the tsunami victims.
                          Indeed, it seems like this was the actions of what? Three people that voted no?

                          Still a pretty terrible thing to do.

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                          • Steelrat
                            I meant to...uh, nevermind
                            • May 2003
                            • 5375

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mcveighr
                            Indeed, it seems like this was the actions of what? Three people that voted no?

                            Still a pretty terrible thing to do.
                            Well, everyone blames the entire US for the actions of our govenrment. Thats the price of democracy, I guess.


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                            • Muzikman
                              Everything AGD
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 6229

                              #29
                              Originally posted by edweird
                              whats that in american? Like a buckfiddy?

                              Oh man, and the joke is still going

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                              • Muzikman
                                Everything AGD
                                • Dec 2000
                                • 6229

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mcveighr
                                Indeed, it seems like this was the actions of what? Three people that voted no?

                                Still a pretty terrible thing to do.

                                Again, fireworks rule. I would have been upset that my town could not have their 4th of July celebration because a few people decided to give away our money. But, I do dontate my money to causes that I know are worth while and where I know where my money is going.

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