Natural Disasters? Blame America!

[RoadDawg]

because we don't kill our own people. we are civilized, when was the last time an American chopped of someones head? Why is it ok for you to ask questions that say our country is not as good as another and you are not sent to your death? Because this is America. "WE GOT THE BOMBS, Nuclear ********* Weapons." - Denis leary

Actually some stupid kid "allegedly" cut off his mothers head and hands not to long ago. Blames the whole thing on the Soprano's. Also I'll point out that there are murders all the time all over the country.

The way I look at it, people will always hate each other. It's human nature to kill and hate. Is it right, no, but you can't always supress natures way.

Plain and simple. Natural Disasters are just that, natural. The planet is constantly shifting, spitting out molten rock and flooding. Nothing will keep it from happening. We might be able to tell when it might happen but even then we are a LONG ways away from that.

As for the article it sounds highly one sided and completely biased. So I trust it very little. There might be some truth there but there's some BS as well.

[BlackWeenie]

Actually some stupid kid "allegedly" cut off his mothers head and hands not to long ago. Blames the whole thing on the Soprano's. Also I'll point out that there are murders all the time all over the country.

The way I look at it, people will always hate each other. It's human nature to kill and hate. Is it right, no, but you can't always supress natures way.

Plain and simple. Natural Disasters are just that, natural. The planet is constantly shifting, spitting out molten rock and flooding. Nothing will keep it from happening. We might be able to tell when it might happen but even then we are a LONG ways away from that.

As for the article it sounds highly one sided and completely biased. So I trust it very little. There might be some truth there but there's some BS as well.

s

QFT. i was going to post my opinions, but it was going to be exactly the same as roaddawg's. this "article" isnt very reliable, as it is blatantly bias.

[SAW]

It's not necessarily the religion that is wrong, but more the extremist groups within that religion. This applies to all corners of the globe.

[lord1234]

specialblend is muslim, does that make him wrong?

a) he hasn't chosen to voice his opinion in this thread yet
b) if he belongs to an extremist muslim group, then in my eyes yes it does. If he is a law abiding, good citizen, then frankly i don't give a damn about what his religions is.

[epterry]

If I was the president and some turkey from the UN told me that the US government needs to raise taxes for relief then I would remind him that we are busy trying to pay for what we did/are doing to the last guy who tried to push us around. Then I would tell him that if he kept bothering me, I would give the world some relief, by delivering a tank to his front door.

Do not take this wrong I personally think that the people of the US should give a lot to the relief effort, but it should not be the government. I am a big fan of those “faith based” charities.

[PyRo]

Everyone is right, the United States is wrong.
When thousands of Americans are killed they're jumping for joy praising Allah. When thousands of muslims are killed we should return the favor. So everyone grab your gun, run into the street, fire into the air and praise God for killing the infidels.

[Rebel46_99]

This has been re-hashed before, but.... To echo another member here, "Who (insert your chosen expletive here) cares!???"

We, the USA, are the "Evil Satan" until our money and resources are needed to bail someone else out of their problems. It's been asked before, "Where was the rest of the world when Florida got hammered 4 times last year by hurricanes?" The answer? Nowhere to be found because it didn't concern them.

And yet, the US had a carrier group on the scene in Indonesia within a few days to assist in any way possible. But..... we're the bad guys? "Kill'em all....... Let Allah sort'em out" Sound insensitive? You bet. But it's OK for "them" to think like that and not us? They can take a high-speed aerial fornication at a rapidly revolving centerless pastry.

[deadeye9]

It seems like, all around the world, rational thought has been replaced with partisanship.
It's difficult for human beigns to see all sides of an issue.
It's easier to blindly adhere to one's beliefs.
Blind adherence gives humans comfort.

[wageslave]

The United States makes up some six percent of the world's total population,
but we pay a quarter of the United Nation's total budget.

The United States also has a quarter of the world's money, or in economic terms, the United States makes up nearly one quarter of the world's gross domestic product.

You can always twist statistics to support your point just by leaving out the statistics that don't agree with your opinion. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with paying a quarter of the UN's budget when we make a quarter of the world's money.

[SCpoloRicker]

tropical_fishy specialblend is muslim, does that make him wrong?

a) he hasn't chosen to voice his opinion in this thread yet

But don't worry we'll know if he's "with us or against us" soon. I don't think he really needs to respond to this level of thinking.

b) if he belongs to an extremist muslim group, then in my eyes yes it does. If he is a law abiding, good citizen, then frankly i don't give a damn about what his religions is.

What if he were an extremist christian? Do we have any of those here in the states?

I wholeheartedly disagree. Tying missionary work in with relief efforts is ethically wrong. It implies that in order for me to help you, you have to believe as I believe.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

It is true that the USA has most of the world's money, and gives the most to charity. We can extrapolate that to include all the countries of the West. But in every case, what we give is a tiny portion of the riches we enjoy (only the Scandinavian countries give more than 0.7% of their GDP as foreign aid).

We live in countries that are legally secular, and overwhelmingly populated by nominal Christians. Yet none of us gives more than a pittance. We might do better to bear in mind Jesus's comments from Mark 12 v41-44.

(41) And he sat down over against the treasury, and beheld how the multitude cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. (42) And there came a poor widow, and she cast in two mites, which make a farthing. (43) And he called unto him his disciples, and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, This poor widow cast in more than all they are casting into the treasury. (44) For they all did cast in of their superfluity; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

... we are busy trying to pay for what we did/are doing to the last guy who tried to push us around. ...

The last guy who tried to push around the USA would be Stalin, with the Berlin blockade in 1948.

[Alpha]

I havent donaed a penny. I dont feel ad. Where was the rest of the world when 911 happened? Surely it was a huge deal that we got attacked, but which countries donated millions to us?

Why did they kick our troops out? What do they have to cover up?

Call me a cold hearted bastard, but I think we need to worry a little bit more about the homeless people in America, and the people who dont recieve any medical care, adn the people who are hungry, IN OUR OWN STREETS first.

People will drop a $20 into a collection bin for the tsunami victims.

But they walk past a homeless guy with a cup and call him a bum adn tell him to get a job.

[lord1234]

in response to: What if he were an extremist christian? Do we have any of those here in the states?

yes we do, and they are not "right" either. I don't care what religion you are. If you are an extremist you are in the wrong.

[Hasty8]

The wave struck on Sunday, and it took only until Monday before the US
announced its $15 million in initial aid, sent the USS Abraham Lincoln into the
region, including helicopters, and C-130 transport planes, sent hundreds of tons
of pre-packaged emergency aid supplies, and deployed some14,000 American
troops to help with the recovery and cleanup.

Keep in mind that the initial $15 million does not include the cost of sending the Abraham, the fuel for the helo's and C-130's, the pay for all the personnell involved and the emergency aid supplies.

The $15 million is basically for the effected regions to be able to stop the cash hemorrhage these nations were about to face.

Now, how many nations worldwide gave the US any relief to NY after 9/11?

Super-rich liberals like Bono and Bruce Springsteen are promising to hold another 'aid concert' to collect money (not theirs) for the victims.

Which means that the moneis will not get to those who need it for at least a few years. That's why all the (fill in the blank)-Aid concerts always make me laugh. Their nothing more than an opportunity for some goobers to increase their market value while using the misery and suffering of others.

Face it. You live in a nation that everyone loves to hate but in the end desperately needs.