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  • Thordic
    AFTICA
    • May 2001
    • 5986

    #16
    Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
    Nitrogen is better than compressed air for electronic guns. When air is compressed, so are the water molecules. This can lead to long term solenoid damage. You can tell you are using compressed air when you see water vapor coming out of your barrel after each shot. That's the water molecules expanding in the warm air.
    Compressors come with water traps. If your field is running a compressor without running a water trap, find another field. The compressed air that goes into your gun is dry.

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    • RogueFactoryKid
      What wouldnt Jesus Do?
      • Jul 2003
      • 1283

      #17
      Originally posted by Muzikman
      You have been to every field in Maine to check?
      Yes.
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      • Will Wood
        Evil Monkey
        • May 2002
        • 3475

        #18
        Originally posted by RogueFactoryKid
        Yes.
        What he said

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        • Muzikman
          Everything AGD
          • Dec 2000
          • 6229

          #19
          Must not be many fields in Maine. It would take me quite a long time to try and hit every field in PA. Hell, I have not been to every field in South West PA

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          • Will Wood
            Evil Monkey
            • May 2002
            • 3475

            #20
            Not too many..Nope heh. And there's like 5 all within an hour of each other. Gotta be reminded, this is Maine we're talking about. More than half the state is like... woods and rednecks.

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            • Codekevin0403
              Whoa we can do this????
              • Mar 2005
              • 269

              #21
              Are they different? I always thought nitrogen was just a different name for compressed air

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              • Lohman446
                Useful posts: 7
                • Jun 2003
                • 9315

                #22
                Originally posted by Thordic
                Compressors come with water traps. If your field is running a compressor without running a water trap, find another field. The compressed air that goes into your gun is reasonable/mostly/for the most part/for all useful purposes except people who are jerks on technicalities dry.

                Added one word - actually a few, take your pick which one to insert.. because I'm being a technicality jerk today
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                • Muzikman
                  Everything AGD
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 6229

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Codekevin0403
                  Are they different? I always thought nitrogen was just a different name for compressed air
                  Compressed Air is exacly that, they take the air that is all around you and compress it to 3000-5000psi.

                  Nitogen is pulled from the air and contained in tanks at 3000psi.

                  The air that is all around you is ~70% Nitrogen, so for paintball they are equal.

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                  • steimway
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 187

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Will Wood
                    Gotta be reminded, this is Maine we're talking about. More than half the state is like... woods and rednecks.
                    I used to think that Maine was bad... and then I moved to vermont.

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                    • ScatterPlot
                      Not pop, it's all Coke
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 1960

                      #25
                      Pretty sure that most of the time,
                      bulk tanks=nitro
                      compressor=CA (well compressors are always CA)
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                      • Commissar_Loki
                        6-shootin SOB
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 438

                        #26
                        Well, the shop I work for uses 6,ooo PSI 99.9999% Nitrogen bulk tanks.


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                        • maglover728
                          Boomer!
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1093

                          #27
                          My friends and I turned the high-pressure system on the USS Florida into the largest floating PB fill station in the world. We had a bunch of guys on the boat that loved to play and so we just hooked a line into the system right before a low-pressure reducer in engine room forward, near instrumentation. We were good up to 45k. I miss the boat. Shore duty sucks!
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                          • Nottma
                            Nuvair
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 6

                            #28
                            I have had people try to tell me that nitrogen expands more fluently and causes you to fire straighter.. bs probably.
                            but in all reality the only difference that could matter is the dryness difference between the gas mixes.

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                            • SSMercury
                              Baaaaa....baaaa
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 212

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nottma
                              I have had people try to tell me that nitrogen expands more fluently and causes you to fire straighter.. bs probably.
                              but in all reality the only difference that could matter is the dryness difference between the gas mixes.
                              I'm calling BS.

                              1. Air as a mixture is mixed VERY, VERY thoroughly, being, well, gas state chemicals.
                              2. The flow difference between air, 91% N2 and O2 (essentially the same flow characteristics, they differ less than 7%), and 99.9%+ N2 would be pretty hard to detect.

                              Sure, you could tell if it was, say, Helium gas versus, say, CO2. But I don't see how anyone is going to tell what it'd take instrumentation to tell. The usual things like paint/barrel match, accuracy of shooter, and consistency of air pressure play SO much more of a significant role.

                              Either Nitrogen or compressed air is cheap as these things go. Nitrogen is a common welding gas, and commonly used in chemical labs for inert atmosphere purposes. Few things burn or oxidize in pure N2 environments, though I can think of a couple things.
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