Pistols

[sabrefanpc]

UPDATE

spent the day at the range today. shot a few different 9mm, and I must say the rueger was very nice. Posed my original question to the owner and he suggested the rueger. My only concern is that they are so much cheaper than everything else for a reason (ie shotty materials, workmanship). and whatever your suggestions are, im looking for a DA/SA, decocking only

[CrimsonTurkey]

Once you haev the permit grab yourself a Last Legend Zatiochi style cane sword. Those tend to elict a somewhat more intense psychological response.

http://www.armsofvalour.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOVL&Product_Code=LL015&Category_Code=O

Very good blade, I have used mine for cutting a few times as well as in the Ryu dojo. That and you really feel like a very bad donkey walking around with that thing.

PS: The full length cashmere coat it a must.

[sabrefanpc]

walking through downtown miami with a katana .... I deffinately doubt anyone would mess with me.

florida doesnt have a length law either... not easy to hide though

[CrimsonTurkey]

This is easy to hide though... it looks like a cane, thus the straight blade.

[xXHavokXx]

UPDATE

spent the day at the range today. shot a few different 9mm, and I must say the rueger was very nice. Posed my original question to the owner and he suggested the rueger. My only concern is that they are so much cheaper than everything else for a reason (ie shotty materials, workmanship). and whatever your suggestions are, im looking for a DA/SA, decocking only

Decocking works great with a Sig! My 239 is loads of fun. Also check out the .357 Sig round....it's a blast, and feels great out of 226 228 229 and 239 model Sigs.


Remember what Bhudda says, People who carry Glocks are impotent.



(Sorry my friends are huge Glock fans so I have to let out my distaste for them here as my hand is not shaped like and oven mit and does not like to be grated.)

[Konigballer]

I believe Para Ordanance manufactures a few different '1911 style' compacts in .45 and at reasonable prices for a 1911. Whatever handgun make or model you choose, if you are going to get a concealed carry permit, then it is a reality that the handgun you choose may be called upon to save your life. In that case I would think long and hard about the caliber of handgun you choose. When talking about self defense and situations involving 'kill or be killed', I've often heard the phrase 'never use a handgun with a caliber that doesnt start with 4...'.

Just for a better known real-world example, in one incident rapper 50 Cent got shot NINE times with 9mm bullets, including one to the face, and he's still up and running quit well... I've read to many times of people literally being riddled with 9mm's, and smaller caliber rounds, and living to tell or still being able to resist. The worst I ever read was of a armed gunmen being shot 17 times by police 9mm's before dropping. An autopsy revealed that only the LAST bullet was imedietly fatal, the other 16 wounds were not, and allowed him to still resist while bleeding him to death. Of course different 9mm ammo loads and can give you more stopping power, but the same can be had for the already harder hitting calibers like the .40 and .45.

[Lohman446]

I believe Para Ordanance manufactures a few different '1911 style' compacts in .45 and at reasonable prices for a 1911. Whatever handgun make or model you choose, if you are going to get a concealed carry permit, then it is a reality that the handgun you choose may be called upon to save your life. In that case I would think long and hard about the caliber of handgun you choose. When talking about self defense and situations involving 'kill or be killed', I've often heard the phrase 'never use a handgun with a caliber that doesnt start with 4...'.

Just for a better known real-world example, in one incident rapper 50 Cent got shot NINE times with 9mm bullets, including one to the face, and he's still up and running quit well... I've read to many times of people literally being riddled with 9mm's, and smaller caliber rounds, and living to tell or still being able to resist. The worst I ever read was of a armed gunmen being shot 17 times by police 9mm's before dropping. An autopsy revealed that only the LAST bullet was imedietly fatal, the other 16 wounds were not, and allowed him to still resist while bleeding him to death. Of course different 9mm ammo loads and can give you more stopping power, but the same can be had for the already harder hitting calibers like the .40 and .45.

Don't discount ammo starting with .357. Either Magnum or Sig the prior has proven tremendous stopping power in the real world. The later has show all indications of exceptional stopping power in controlled tests on par with ammos starting in .4

Then again, Ruger makes some Alaskan guide series revolver that is in theory concealable (very short barrel, under 3") that's chambered in .454 Cassul (sp)

PS... never discount any ammo ending in gauge either

[teufelhunden]

PS... never discount any ammo ending in gauge either

Thanks for the laugh of the morning!

[SCpoloRicker]

boo on glocks. Sig and HK are my preference.

[Hasty8]

Must be nice living outside of a "lefty" state. I can't even hold a pistol in a store without a license.

[xXHavokXx]

I live in a lefty state. I hold em all the time and rent em (like the DE we rented). I even own 2

[Blennidae]

I personally don't subscribe to the whole thing with 9mm not being up to the job, and that the ".4x" calibers are required. There are a lot of variables involved. I think shot placement is fairly important. There is another fairly recent real world event that had a DEA agent shoot himself point blank in the leg with a .40, and he never went down, and continued to talk about gun safety for a couple minutes.

The fact that there is so much data on shootings is why there is all this talk about caliber x being better than caliber y. But for every example where x fails, there is one where y fails as well.

Pick what works for you, and practice with it. Get it so it becomes second nature.

If you want a one shot stop, shoot someone in the head with a rifle.

[xXHavokXx]

I dont believe in one shot stops hence why my homedefense set up is 7 hydra shocks and 6 talons from a .40 S&W. If a human survives that then ill have to run back to the safe and grab the 357 sig. Odds are unless youre rambo youre not gonna make it.

[Lohman446]

My .45 with Federal Hydroshocks is next to my bed in a quick access safe - 10 shots (used to be Golden Sabres)

From there its ten feet to a short barreled twelve gauge loaded with 3 slugs followed by three 00 rounds.

If that doesn't do it I have 45 rounds of 9MM in my Mac-11 (complete with laser red dot sight)

I'm good

[kosmo]

Just to clarify something, he said he wants something reliable. That means the m9 is instantly disqualified from even being considered as maybe something even worth mentioning. Cuz it sucks. Really bad.