Schiavo battel

[Glickman]

[QUOTE=93civiccpe]The husband has a commonlaw wife and 2 kids and is not part of her life. I have no idea why anyone is giving him say in this matter. He would rather her be dead because he's getting a big settlement. QUOTE]

this is the furthest ive heard from the truth. i think the husband is doing the right thing.

first of all, hes not getting any money in any settlement because they didnt have money to even go through most of the hospital testing. there is no money to recieve.

if he really didnt care, why wouldnt he just divorce her? then her parents would get to decide. Hanging around for 15? yea im sur ehe doesnt care.

[kosmo]

I agree that she died almost 15 years ago. She shouldnt have even been artificially kept alive this long. When my brother was declared brain dead, we had him "unplugged" so that at the very least his organs could be donated. Right now his heart valves are in someone elses child who got to grow up, and a young man got his corneas so he could see again. Thats all the doctors were able to salvage from him, but someone else gets to live and another person gets to see. Like was already said, all she is using them for is a poop factory.

[CaptaiN_JacK]

The husband has a commonlaw wife and 2 kids and is not part of her life. I have no idea why anyone is giving him say in this matter. He would rather her be dead because he's getting a big settlement. Conspiracy theorists are saying he is behind this condition, because it can be brought about by a few different things. << I'm not going to touch that. I do know that he's not a part of her life, he has a commonlaw wife he lives with and has 2 children with. He should NOT get the say.

On top of that, why is it that we delay the killing of a person on death row who killed/raped.. etc in cold blood, and people watched them do it, but we keep delaying their death for years so we get appeals. But this innocent woman who actually does respond to stimuli, is being put to death because a man who calls himself her husband but lives and has children with another woman wants her to die??

She has no "do not resusitate" order. (please forgive my spelling). On top of that, just for anyone who hasn't been keeping tabs of this, Shiavo can actually chew food, eat it, and swallow water, but just not enough for a healthy diet. When the courts ordered her feeding tube out, they also ORDERED that she not be able to eat or drink. They are ordering her death. I don't understand how this can be possible. I think all those judges would feel otherwise if they were the one in that condition.

He has been offered $10 million dollars to forfeit his right over her already. Not 1 thousand, not 100 thousand, but 10 million dollars. Now does your arguement of "he's doing it for the money" hold as much weight?

Time for a quick comparison!

Shiavo - Ate through a feeding tube < My dog - Eats his own food
Shiavo - Needs help to go to the bathroom < My dog - Does his business on his own
Shiavo - Can't respond to barely anything < My dog - Knows a lot of voice signals and hand signals
Shiavo - Is about to die > My dog - continues living

/end of comparison

[RamboPreacher]

human life is precious.

[deadeye9]

I think the poll should include another entry:

It's none of my business.

[Lohman446]

Its a situation that none of us can fathom. The doctors that have seen her, including one who has degrees in both law and is a medical teacher/doctor of some type who was appointed her legal liason by the court at one point, have all said that she is in a consistent vegatative state. I heard an interview with this guy and he spent several hundred hours with her... trying to find a consistent reaction to any stimuli. There is no consistent reaction according to him, no sign of anything but normal reflexive movement in a persistant vegatative state. The only doctors who disagree have watched her in videos and are judging by a few seconds of film clip??

That being said I understand miracles happen. However, her husband has produced witnesses that have heard her say repeatedly - at least twice that she had no desire to live in a vegatative state.

I cannot fathom the mental anguish of a continued existance where I had no ability to communicate. Even if I had other clear functions - even if I knew the world around me, to not be able to move, talk, nod, or in any other way effectively communicate, even at a base level. To me it is the perfect description of hell - I cannot imagine any physical torment worse than this. Thats not even considering the possibility that she is in pain.

That being said I pray to never truly understand the mental anguish of having to let go of one of your children... of having to give up all hope. Its not just having it taken away suddenly... they have to watch that hope of recovery, that slim hope of a miracle fade before them. It would be devastating.

While I intellectually understand the suffering of the parents, and the husband for that matter, at having to do this, at having to let her go I cannot fully empathize, I have never been there, I don't truly understand what it is like, I pray to never truly know. To keep her alive, in what I can only describe as a hellish condition, is to me a selfish decision.

[Echo419]

shaivo died.

[RamboPreacher]

shaivo died.

any URL's or links?

nevermind - found this

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152015,00.html

[Lohman446]

shaivo died.

Although any death of course is tragic this can be seen as a lesson

We have allowed the politicians in the past couple weeks, and even longer, to seize on the emotions of one family to shape our laws.

We need to, as a country, as states, and as individuals with our families take this time to again be reminded of the need to prepare for, and discuss such a situation. We need to make our laws to make certain such battles do not occur, and we as individuals need to make certain our wishes are well known for our own lives, in a way that holds legal standing.

[spyderkiller]

I agree with you Lohman. I also think that it's a shame that any family's personal business would become the headlines on CNN and need judicial and congressional hearings to try to settle. I, for one, no matter what the issue is, will not allow my family's personal lives become the center of national attention. Just my opinion.

[quik]

*Plays One.mp3*

[kosmo]

*Plays One.mp3*

Thats a song about someone with a functional brain trapped in a useless body, not a body with a nonfunctioning brain. Entirely the opposite.

[Chris42050]

Spantol made the most inteligent and proper statement in this thread. Granted I only scanned the thread but I definetaly agree with him. The main thing in this whole mess is WHAT WOULD TERRI WANT. The husband has battled thru the courts and been villified by millions and still stood his course on what He beleives Terri would want. I read an article that said he was offered 10 million dollars to give custody to the parents. Why wouldn't he just give custody to them. Because he feels that he is doing what Terri would want. He says she told him when her grandmother was going thru the same thing she didnt want to live that way. We have no reason not to beleive him because who would turn down millions of dollars, fight for 10 years (first 5 of the 15 years was him taking her to numerous dr.s for help) in the courts, and be villified by millions and still hold thier ground. He has nothing to gain but what she would wantrom this, only much much to lose. I have tremendous respect for him holding his ground for all these years. Many Dr.s have said she will not suffer becasue she doesnt even think. How can you suffer when your brain is liquid. They give her morphine just so the family feels better. She feels nothing.
How many of you would want to live like that? Really, its not even living. I know I wouldnt.

[quik]

Thats a song about someone with a functional brain trapped in a useless body, not a body with a nonfunctioning brain. Entirely the opposite.

Oh.

[kramer]

Im counting the mins before one of the religious right mods close it.

Funny how so many of the christian right worry so much about this garbage, but feel nothing about bombing women and children in another country - some even post pictures detailing their thrilling "adventure" on the front lines.




give me a break. She was in a prison for 15 years......let her go.