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  • nippinout
    FUSP
    • Jan 2002
    • 1231

    #1

    ARMY! I could use your input on an AR build

    I'm interested in building an AR-15, but I am wondering how important it is to get the high end components.

    As an experienced armorer, what components would you recommend I splurge on? I'm not looking to win any competitions, but something that won't fail me is the only real requirement.

    Thanks!
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  • Target Practice
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    • Nov 2003
    • 3180

    #2
    I'll be camping this thread. This way, I don't have to bug him with questions everyday...


    "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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    • myangelrocks
      Registered User
      • May 2002
      • 106

      #3

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      • Army
        Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

        • Oct 2000
        • 5785

        #4
        Personally, I prefer quality. That means DPMS, Armalite, Smith Enterprises, SoG, or Rock River Arms(all easy Google searches). Quality means that parts failure is much less likely to happen. Bushmaster quality has been hit & miss over the years, so I can't recommend them.

        Chrome lining will extend the life of the barrel, and help keep it clean. Many target shooters prefer unlined barrels...but I like'em, especially for a plinker/play gun.

        Real money to put up for? Barrel, lower internals, and bolt/bolt carrier. Everything else is personal preference (buttstock, free floated fore-end or standard, sights, carry handle on top...or not, grip design etc).

        Okay Industries, SOG, Cooper are good magazines that the military uses.

        Do you have any specific questions on building?

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        • SoldierzHonor
          Geared and Feared
          • Nov 2002
          • 235

          #5
          Im sure he'll give good advice. Another place for good advice is www.ar15.com
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          • myangelrocks
            Registered User
            • May 2002
            • 106

            #6
            Originally posted by SoldierzHonor
            Im sure he'll give good advice. Another place for good advice is www.ar15.com
            ar15.com is so so. some good info but lot's of airsoft wannabes. pre-ban.com is ALOT better.

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            • myangelrocks
              Registered User
              • May 2002
              • 106

              #7
              http://magfaq.tripod.com/ <----------------there is all the information you'll need on mag manufacturers. Good luck on your build.

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              • nippinout
                FUSP
                • Jan 2002
                • 1231

                #8
                If I wanted a short barreled AR-15, should I be looking at a medium, and not a carbine, length gas system?
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                • Army
                  Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5785

                  #9
                  Short for you is 16", unless you have a Class III. Overall length must be 36" , even with buttstock collapsed. 20", 24" and 26" are your other choices, with 20" being normal. So those are your parameters.

                  However, any company making M4 barrels/uppers will have 16's. Now you have to decide if you want a flattop with or without a front sight tower. No tower means getting a gas block, which is no big thing as they work identical to a tower.

                  Now, you can go expensive with a piston system (which keeps carbon and powder waste out of the lower receiver), or stick with the tried and true gas tube assembly. Carbine length gas systems MAY need a heavier buffer assembly, and in fact is smarter to find one right away. This slows down the recoil impulse to the buffer tube, which in turn makes things last longer since parts aren't banging into each other.

                  DPMS makes a "pigtail" gas tube (as I'm sure others do too, I'm just partial to DPMS parts). The tube is coiled at the mid-section, resulting in a standard length tube in a carbine size. This also slows the recoil impulse. Combined with the heavy buffer, can make for a soft, smooth running rifle that will still cycle faster than you can pull the trigger.

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                  • nippinout
                    FUSP
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 1231

                    #10
                    I've seen references to a minimum overall rifle length of 26", but I cannot find anything on the ATF site. The search funtion on the ATF site seems to be broken also.

                    DPMS has a few rifles with a collapsed length of under 36" that don't appear to be LEO.

                    Do you have any particular type of iron sights that you like?

                    BTW, thanks for all of your expert help.
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                    • Destructo6
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 549

                      #11
                      Form 1: "Application to Make and Register a Firearm

                      27 CFR 179.11: "Meaning of Terms"

                      "...Firearm. (a) A shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18
                      inches in length; (b) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as
                      modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or
                      barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (c) a rifle having a barrel or
                      barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (d) a weapon made from a rifle
                      if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches
                      or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
                      (e) any other
                      weapon, as defined in this subpart; (f) a machine gun; (g) a muffler or
                      a silencer for any firearm whether or not such firearm is included
                      within this definition; and (h) a destructive device..."
                      How's that?
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                      Your parents, a body.
                      Your country, a rifle.

                      Keep all of them clean.

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