I don't understand why people commit suicide

[Thordic]

Most people that fall into depression tend to sleep more. Some people show signs, others seem like the happiest person in the world..But when they get home they cry and cry not quite sure exatically what for. Thier mind races when they try to sleep and thoughts of the simplest things brings them down.
~steph

On a more serious, non-grammatical note, this is true. I went through a bit of a rough patch about five years ago, and thats about spot on. I slept all the damn time because I didn't want to deal with people, and when you try to go to sleep you can't, sometimes for hours. I never thought about killing myself though. My ego is too big for that, no matter how crappy I feel

[WickeDKlowN]

Suicide is one of those things they you may never know why.

I had an uncle that I was pretty close to commit suicide just over 2 years ago(it was on the last day of spring break). He went missing earlier in the week and they found him, dead, on Monday morning. It was one of the worst things I've ever experienced. I don't know the circumstances or anything about it. Never asked, never really wanted to know. I remember hearing talk of his girlfriend getting him into some drugs or something, but I don't know. Not a day goes by that I don't wonder why.

[SCpoloRicker]

Depression is real. Self-destructive thoughts are real. What Phil said about lack of perspective is spot-on. This is a serious issue; and it will affect someone you know, if not yourself.

/bah, this is far too serious
//two nuns, a croc, and a midget walk into a saloon?

[bornl33t]

here's why

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172579

[SCpoloRicker]

Well, that will do it.

[hitech]

[CKY_Alliance]

anyone wanna paraphrase that???

[Miscue]

One of my friends hung himself Friday night while at school, and no one knows why. He was the happiest kid in the world, had a great family, went to a great school, participated in extracurricular activities, and was liked by almost everyone. Why is it always the happy kids that show no signs of depression. Life can suck, but is it really worth it for people to kill themselves?

I went from happy-go-lucky to a long period of depression when I was about 16. What started it? I have no freakin' clue, it just did. I can't say it's ever really gone away completely, but I have a much understanding of what is going on with my brain... and because of this I can keep it under control.

What you will find with people who have suffered for a good amount of time is that they are experts in concealing it. Someone who has experienced depression might more easily pick up on some subtle hints.

Here's one of the weird things about it: You can be in this state having NO rational reason for it. You can even end up asking yourself, "Why do I feel like this today? Nothing bad even happened. What the hell?" You could have everything going for you, and it doesn't matter. It's a sickness, where your brain beats itself up for no apparant reason. People with healthy brains have a hard time understanding and relating with this... and have no idea how to approach this problem.

Now imagine if your brain works this way, and then you have to face life's problems. Small things become BIG things. Big things become unmanageable. Enter the option of suicide dangling in front of you... eventually it starts to seem like a good idea to make the torment go away... because there doesn't seem to be any solution. Depression for a long enough time distorts the perception of reality, and in this dark hole suicide makes a lot of sense and has its appeal.

Imagine if you feel horrible... day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, and so on. You wake up... you're not thinking about breakfast, or school, or work. "Being dead sounds good right about now." Now even if you don't do anything drastic but have these sorts of thoughts, everything in your life suffers. Relationships with people, performance with school or work... these suffer and the hole gets even deeper and harder to climb out of.

It makes you tired, it sucks away your energy, it makes you physically sick - the problems grow in a snowball effect.

What I've learned is that I have to sleep right, I have to eat right, I have to go out and do stuff regularly, I have to make myself relax, I have to do things that are mentally healthy and avoid unhealthy things, I have to develop healthy routines and break out of bad ones. If it's 3AM and it's creeping up on me, I might get out of bed, MAKE myself go to the gym because that seems to really help... I go to sleep okay, and wake up okay... and this can carry on to the next day.

Sounds simple, but I did basically none of this - didn't know I needed to, didn't know how to... and that's when things got out of hand. It takes a while to learn how to maintain your faulty brain's needs... some people self-destruct before they get a chance to figure it out... and that's unfortunate.

[trains are bad]

One of these days, I'm going to commit suicide...unintentionally. But still, from my own doing. Not accident.

I understand your greif, and it may have been really selfish of him, considering his loved ones, but at the same time, we all have a life and we pays our money and makes our choices. Freedom means the ability to check out early, and he did. I don't really know what I'm saying. My sister's father in law killed himself. Put his family in quite a bind. Left a lot of loose ends etc.

[Miscue]

One of these days, I'm going to commit suicide...unintentionally. But still, from my own doing. Not accident.

I understand your greif, and it may have been really selfish of him, considering his loved ones, but at the same time, we all have a life and we pays our money and makes our choices. Freedom means the ability to check out early, and he did. I don't really know what I'm saying. My sister's father in law killed himself. Put his family in quite a bind. Left a lot of loose ends etc.

I have a hard time understanding how suicide can be selfish. I've heard it called that several times, but never understood it.

[trains are bad]

If you have people that love you or have invested a lot in you, (parents) you could say that you are somewhat obligated to not kill yourself thereby making the focus of a large part of thier life a waste.

Also if you have dependents, like a woman or kids, killing yourself leaving them screwed is definately not cool.

[Miscue]

If you have people that love you or have invested a lot in you, (parents) you could say that you are somewhat obligated to not kill yourself thereby making the focus of a large part of thier life a waste.

Also if you have dependents, like a woman or kids, killing yourself leaving them screwed is definately not cool.

Well, situationally I can agree. But I don't think it is a rule.

[Eatem Alive]

i wished that people who contemplate suicide would just take a minute and realize, it will get better...unless you're terminal.

[noahyay]

this is a FORUM

its for your thoughts i thought, not a two page article on the brain

but yeah, i agree with the fact that teenagers are rediculous, and even though i am one i do notice how i act -even over the last few years i have begun to mature and have less mood swings and whatnot

so, combine the fact that teenagers hormones are jumping up and down faster than a squirell on crack with the fact that there are 1000 of them in a school at once, all p.m.s.ing

my highschool experience:
it was the best of times, it was the worst of times

[Digits]

I have a hard time understanding how suicide can be selfish. I've heard it called that several times, but never understood it.

It all depends on the person..

There are basically two different types of people..

A) People that want to commit suicide to "proove a point" or to hurt someone close to them.. These are the selfish people, and these people usually don't want to die, they just want to get notice and crave attention. They're usually the ones that will half-assed attempt a suicide not really hoping to die, but not caring to much.. And then usually live and tell everyone about their suicide attempt. I know a person like this.. And these people are really self-centered alot of the time. They usually find excuses for their problems, and blame bad things on other people. For example, the person I know says she can't say "no" to people. When alot of the time I see her coming onto different guys. She doesn't want to say no, she just looks for an excuse to being a whore. These are the attention cravers and the ones that will constantly say crap like.. Oh I hate my life, I want to just die, I tried killing myself last night, I had all the pills laid out, I was ready to do. Crap like that.. I have no pitty for these type of people. If they end their lives, then that's their problem.

B) People who actually suffer cronic depression. Just read that one guys post on the first page. It was bang on.. Just basically where you cover everything up, any problems you have, you act like they arn't problems. Then when your alone they really become problems, and come out from their nest. Where you will sit by yourself and cry, and not know what your crying about. Any little problem just builds itself onto a bundle of problems and it constantlly grows. If you don't talk about it with someone, or finally let it out.. Then you seem to face only one option. And thats suicide. These people I do have pity for. Basically because it's a disorder for them. Not some attention seeking trend.

People in this thread are right to. If your a generally happy person, who only gets mad/sad at bigger issues, then chances are there is no way you can relate. You either have to no someone well, and talk to them, whos actually depressed, or have it going on yourself to really understand.