Radar Detectors

[PyRo]

Don't you hate it when you pass someone on the highway who is going the speed limit or even under it then half an hour later you notice they're only two cars behind you and havn't been speeding? Driving like an idiot can affect driving times, a while ago I made a normally half hour trip in just under ten minutes ignoring all traffic laws. This was about a month before I wrapped up my car as a result of this sort of driving. This is what it took to get me to stop driving like a moron, don't worry it will happen to you to eventually hopefully you'll be as lucky as I was.


What is a safe speed on a road one day may not be safe the next. Remember you have no control over your surroundings. What happens if some potentially hazardous debris fell off a truck, maybie some sand or oil is on the road, a sprinkler aimed into the road creating a wet patch, a child runs out into the road, or an animal, a tire blows out, etc. You might say I'd just run it over, but a squirril under your tire under the right conditions could easially cause a loss of controll. And I don't care if your car is well maintained, new tires can have defects, you don't know if someone at the factory was having a bad day and didn't fully tighten a bolt somwhere.

[theraidenproject]

Slarty - Where did I say I was a better driver than anyone else? I just reread all my posts and I couldn't find such a statement, or even an insinuation, anywhere. I know up there in Canada you're taught to bend over and take government intrusion even more then we're instructed to over here in the USA, but just because a sign says 55mph, doesn't automatically make it the maximum safe speed to drive there. Speeding tickets are such a great tax-free fund-raiser for government, a hot button issue for voters, etc, that common sense will not always win out. Who's more dangerous of a driver, someone doing 75 or 80 in the left lane on the highway giving ample room to the car in front, or a jackass doing the limit, but talking on his cell phone, swerving in and out and tailgating people?
Study after study? How about personal experience? I save time when I drive, versus when some others drive, and likewise my friend with a modded WRX gets anywhere faster than I do because he is a reckless idiot. And I am completely relaxed when I drive, too. I leave earlier than I need to, with about a 15 minute window. I hope your taxes go even higher and you can't afford a car anymore, if we're going to be getting personal.

Pyro - I am sorry for your accident. As a passenger, I have unfortunately been in several, one serious, and know how rough it is. I am glad that you're ok, though. Don't assume you know how I drive, though. Once again, I need to clarify, I drive completely reasonably. I don't tailgate, swerve in and out, I don't blast through school zones, or anything of the like. The only thing I violate is the speed limit, when possible. I signal every turn, stop completely at every light, etc. I simply drive with fast-moving traffic when appropriate, which on stretches of my commute is easily 80 or 85 mph. I checked the DMV laws, tickets are in three ranges, 1-14mph, 15-29, and 30+ over. I have never done 30 over and never will, both for a matter of self-preservation and not wanting the consequences.

[Lohman446]

Study after study? How about personal experience? I save time when I drive, versus when some others drive,

Once again the statement of AO. Screw quanitative scientific analysis, my perceptions are so much more accurate

[AGD202]

the cops now have a radar in thier dashes that detect speed, radar detectors can not pick the new radars up... dont bother buying a radar detector

[tranman]

While I admit to driving over the limit from time to time, it IS breaking the law regardless if anyone is around. You really shouldn't be mad that you got a ticket, you should be willing to pay it, as you willfully broke the law. Of course they can't stop you from speeding, last time I checked no one could stop you from murdering anyone either. Both are illegal and there is a punishment for both. If you do it, they are your actions and you should be willing to deal with any consequences.

Sure morally speeding isnt as bad as murdering someone, but is there a set standard of morals for everyone? Not every culture is the same, we're lucky we get a monetary punishment for speeding tickets, while in some countries they'll kill you for talking badly about the government.

That's just my input, no need to flame me or insult me or where im from (Canada as well).

[theraidenproject]

Once again the statement of AO. Screw quanitative scientific analysis, my perceptions are so much more accurate

Jesus Christ. They're not my perceptions. I have TIMED the same route I do in the morning compared to being driven by someone else. I save time. You want videotape? Traffic isn't that bad the whole way. Also, there are plenty of lights I only make by driving faster, or going quicker off the line if I'm first at the light. Every time I do my commute, I take note of a certain car, someone who looks like they aren't going to drive like a grandma, and the vast majority of the time, they're no where in site when I get off the highway.

And tranman, I never got a ticket, I just hope to avoid one. And sorry about the Canada comment, I was half-joking. I have no actual problems with Canada. It was very nice the one time I went on your side of Niagara Falls. Come on, I live in NEW JERSEY, I'm used to comments about where I live.

[wad04]

ok so what do you want us to tell you? I see your point, you just want to drive slightly above normal speeds with out risking a ticket right? Fine then, but what we're telling you is that the technology the police has isn't worth purchasing a radar detector.
by the time the detector picks up radar, its normally too late anyway. And besides that, most officers use lidar now; which you are totally defenseless with a radar detector.

[tranman]

And tranman, I never got a ticket, I just hope to avoid one. And sorry about the Canada comment, I was half-joking. I have no actual problems with Canada. It was very nice the one time I went on your side of Niagara Falls. Come on, I live in NEW JERSEY, I'm used to comments about where I live.

My bad I misread that you HAD a ticket you couldn't pay instead of that you don't want to pay for one. Either way if you think it's worth it and it works for you at least once, I think that justifies it. Peace of mind is something people will pay a lot of money for (alarm systems, house insurance, nice cars , etc.)

[gc82000]

Once again the statement of AO. Screw quanitative scientific analysis, my perceptions are so much more accurate

Can this fit in my location space, or would you like to use it?

[FooTemps]

Lohman: Even on track racing there is incredible amounts of team analysis that goes into the track conditions. (Lap strategies, different lines, different suspention and tires) And when you race on a track, you race in pretty much controlled conditions. Driving on the street is a completely open experience. You don't know the exact road condition, you don't know materials on the road (gravel, dust, sand, glass, blood and muscle pulp, water, etc), and you can't know the exact driving behavior of the drivers. (I've seen grandmas go 20 over and 20 under) It makes driving safely at higher speeds much more dangerous than racing, and it's already dangerous racing in a controlled environment. You can't determine speed limits by saying the more track worthy car can handle the speed.

Raiden: I can't preach to you about not speeding because I've been pulled over doing 30 over and ate a ticket for 15 over, but still dont' do it. I did the same thing you did, drove a route well known by me and had little traffic. One day, a new cop rolls into the district and gives 20 people I know tickets within a week. I see that cop camping every day when I pass by that street now. Eventually something like that will happen if you drive the route enough.

[ScatterPlot]

If you don't like the speed limit, tough. Life's not fair.

[SlartyBartFast]

Slarty - Where did I say I was a better driver than anyone else?

Well, the simple fact that in all your recent posts you're claiming that unlike the rest of society, you alone should be able to judge the state of the road, the road conditions, the safe speed, the safe condition of your car.

As for you beinga typical arrogant yank and brining country of origin into this discussion, GET BENT.

Canada's national speed limits on highways are higher than most US states. How's that for bending over and taking it? Loser.

Speed limits aren't about infringing on YOUR rights. They're about protecting OTHER's rights.

That's what living in a society is about bud. The freedoms that our ancestors fought and died for.

Once again, hope you get a ticket and end up broke.

Want other traffic laws passed or the limit increased? Use the political system and democracy. That's what it's there for.

[fcpchop]

I really don't understand how this became a thread about driving the speed limit vs. driving over the speed limit. The guy simply asked a question about what rador dector he should get, not how he should drive. Other opinons are not needed in this thread, if you feel you have to express that feeling, make a thread about it, don't steal his.

[theraidenproject]

Well, the simple fact that in all your recent posts you're claiming that unlike the rest of society, you alone should be able to judge the state of the road, the road conditions, the safe speed, the safe condition of your car.

Once again, if you think the speed limit sign is the end-all, be-all determination of a safe speed for a road, you are wrong. Do I drive 65 on the highway in a huge snowstorm? No, that would be dangerous, but still legal. (I am unaware if there are laws against "normal" driving in bad conditions. If I was being dangerous, the cop would have given me a ticket. Instead he rightly judged I was doing nothing unreasonable, and gave me a warning which I heeded for most of the rest of the day. Are you saying you are more qualified than he is to determine the safety of my actions, based on nothing more than my narrative on a friggin message board?

As for you beinga typical arrogant yank and brining country of origin into this discussion, GET BENT.

Canada's national speed limits on highways are higher than most US states. How's that for bending over and taking it? Loser.

So I can rag on my own town, other towns, other counties, states or regions, but somehow crossing the border line is unacceptable. If that is indeed true about your higher speed limits, I think that's great.

Speed limits aren't about infringing on YOUR rights. They're about protecting OTHER's rights.

That's what living in a society is about bud. The freedoms that our ancestors fought and died for.

Yes, my ancestors fought defending this country so a growing police state could arbitratily retard speed limits for a lucrative boondoggle.

Once again, hope you get a ticket and end up broke.

Thanks. I hope everything you ever order from a catalog or the internet or is shipped to you gets there let because the truck driver had to go the speed limit the whole time. I do not hope that you cause an accident because the rest of the traffic around you is trying to do a reasonable speed, while you, unwaveringly, will not break the magical number posted in front of you, but that is not an unreasonable scenario.

[quoteWant other traffic laws passed or the limit increased? Use the political system and democracy. That's what it's there for.[/QUOTE]
I am about to join motorists.org, and do just that. THANKS!

[theraidenproject]

I really don't understand how this became a thread about driving the speed limit vs. driving over the speed limit. The guy simply asked a question about what rador dector he should get, not how he should drive. Other opinons are not needed in this thread, if you feel you have to express that feeling, make a thread about it, don't steal his.

Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you. At this point, though, I don't mind debating, but it certainly was frustrating at first when all I wanted to do was a little product research.