Radar Detectors

[theraidenproject]

If you don't like the speed limit, tough. Life's not fair.

Thank you for that eloquent and nuanced defence of the current speed limit system.

[SlartyBartFast]

Once again, if you think the speed limit sign is the end-all, be-all determination of a safe speed for a road, you are wrong.

And if you think that you have the power to determine what the upper limit is, you're delusional. The road speed on the sings is however the MAXIMUM speed calculated FOR GOOD WEATHER and CLEAR ROAD conditions.

So I can rag on my own town, other towns, other counties, states or regions, but somehow crossing the border line is unacceptable.

I object to is your qualification of my country and government. Got it? If others in other states and counties object to your paranoid view of laws and governemtn, I'll let them stick up for themselves.

Yes, my ancestors fought defending this country so a growing police state could arbitratily retard speed limits for a lucrative boondoggle.

Purely conjecture and paranoid anti-government ranting on your part. Have you ever seen the calculation sheets used by transportation departments to calculate road speeds? The top speeds for each grade of road are set using numerous criteria. Some are political, some are safety.

Regardless, who elected you above your fellow citizens? The straight road past a park near my home can easilt be handled at 80kph+. The safety of the children and the desires of the community dictate I drive at 30kph.

Don't like it? Well, I can petition city hall, the transport department, or try to have provincial or ffederal laws changed. Don't want to bother? Well, I'm man enough to take my responsibilities and face the concequences of my actions. You want to be a coward and avoid being caught so that you don't have to suffer in the name of your convictions.

I hope everything you ever order from a catalog or the internet or is shipped to you gets there let because the truck driver had to go the speed limit the whole time. I do not hope that you cause an accident because the rest of the traffic around you is trying to do a reasonable speed, while you, unwaveringly, will not break the magical number posted in front of you, but that is not an unreasonable scenario.

Talk about using stupidities in a debate. I didn't say I drive the limit ALL the time, and I doubt my packages or mail will be held up by transport vehicles doing the limit.

[SlartyBartFast]

Thank you for that eloquent and nuanced defence of the current speed limit system.

As opposed to your anti-government, the police are out to get me, I have the right to ignore the laws I choose, argument?

[J_Hoyt]

I was pulled over for 71 in a 55 in the left lane with no one on the road.

Who pulled you over?

[billybob_81067]

Check out THIS web page...

[theraidenproject]

Check out THIS web page...

Good link, someone posted it before and that's what I based most of my decisions on. In light of the lidar thing, though, I dunno if I'm going to bother...
Nevermind: Laser jamming legal? Sweeeet.

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/speedlabs/radar-laser-jamming.asp

[theraidenproject]

Who pulled you over?

Rimshot... Haha, I walked into that one. In hindsight, I really believe it to be an alien abduction, in fact.

Slarty - Sorry to jumble all my responses together, I don't feel like doing all the selectice quoting. I already posted the link from a DOT study saying most speed limits are 5-16mph below the 85%. It is absolutely not the maximum speed. Having a radar detector is cowardly? Wow. Whoever said I wouldn't accept the consequences of a speeding ticket? I certainly didn't. Your argument gets very thin there, questioning my manhood and convictions for not wanting a ticket. I'm glad you don't speed by a park. I don't speed by parks, schools, playgrounds, etc. either. Doing so would be irresponsible. Doing 80 under certain conditions on the highway is not. I am not unequivocally for speeding, obviously. I am the first to admit to a certain level of and paranoia and distrust towards government. A certain amount is healthy. Tell me there isn't mounds of evidence justifying it. You need a balance for all the sheep out there.

[fire1811]

Good link, someone posted it before and that's what I based most of my decisions on. In light of the lidar thing, though, I dunno if I'm going to bother...
Nevermind: Laser jamming legal? Sweeeet.
http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...er-jamming.asp

posted this before
"Dont bother with radar jammers they dont work

https://www.radarjammer.com

if you think it will buy one and send it to this guy. He will give you $5000 if it actually works.
police officers that I know always laugh when they see them in the cars they pull over for speeding.

[theraidenproject]

posted this before
"Dont bother with radar jammers they dont work

https://www.radarjammer.com

if you think it will buy one and send it to this guy. He will give you $5000 if it actually works.
police officers that I know always laugh when they see them in the cars they pull over for speeding.

Yea, I looked at that. It's the passive ones that don't work. http://www.radarjammer.com/most-fail...er-jammers.htm "There are several active laser jammers that are very effective in jamming police laser, they are:" Seems like that plus a radar detector would be my best bet, but that's getting pretty pricey.

[Jakedubbleya]

This thread got retarded.

!. Back in the day officers used to pull you over by what kind of car you drove in accordance to how fast you were going, there were no massive amounts of death and tradgedy, as some of you might expect.

2. Driving over the speed limit has been shown to be safer than driving the speed limit if that is the flow of traffic which, in my experience IT ALMOST ALWAYS IS YOU OLD FARTS, THANKS FOR ENDANGERING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE BY CLOGGING UP THE ROADS WITH YOUR SELF RICHTEOUS BULL CRAP.

3. I drive in utah, dont tell me about unsafe idiotic drivers.

4. LOL so many stupid context ignoring comments i think my brain might explode

5. My brain has exploded

[SlartyBartFast]

1. ...
2. ...

1. BS. Deaths are down by a HUGE factor both numerically and even more so, statistically in deaths/number of miles travelled.

2. BS. If I'm travelling at 120kph in the left lane passing those in the right lane going 100kph, any accident is down to your ignorant, arrogant, overly aggressive and unsafe driving. If the whole road is going 100kph, it's your impatience that is at fault.

Flow of traffic.

Funny how that argument is always used as an excuse by the whiners who want to justify or get away with going faster but ignored by those same when it slows them down.

The other three are your problem....

And raiden, sure speed limits are below the theoretical safe maximum. For three enormously important reasons:
1 - The road is far below the theoretical maximum from the moment it is nolonger brand new.
2 - The average car on the road is neither maintained for or capable of any theoretical maximum.
3 - The average driver does not have a racing liscence or professional drivers training.

But for the same reasons of circumstance and judgement, tickets aren't given out when you're 1mph/kph over the limit. Usually 10-15% over is the starting point.

[Jakedubbleya]

1. But it was so much more fun...

I dont understand ur comment on #2...
Talk about assumptions.. lol.. wow...

funny how i go with the flow of traffic, slow or fast.

funny...

[theraidenproject]

85% is NOT the "theoretical safe maximum", 85% is what most people safely drive at, and probably BELOW a "theoretical safe maximum". BS about cars or drivers not being able to higher speeds. What do you think car inspections are for? Road maintenance? I dunno about you, but a poorly maintained road makes me slow down. And drivers licenses? Make getting a license tougher, I was able to pass my written test never opening the book, and the road test was a joke.

[wad04]

i have an idea, why don't you just buy a radar detector and tell us how it worked for you?

[theraidenproject]

i have an idea, why don't you just buy a radar detector and tell us how it worked for you?

I try and do research before major purchases, hence the original purpose of the thread. Finding out lidar is somewhat prevalent in NJ though means that to be fully protected costs about the same as 3 tickets would (not incl. insurance), and it's pretty easy to get tickets moved down to community service and no points, at least from what I've seen of my friends. So now, I'm debating buying one at all, although now I know which one to get.