building comp.,what's the initial boot up like?

[kosmo]

Memtest will only tell you how many errors there are. What motherboard and what kind of memory are you getting? Also, what kind of a64 3000 are you getting? There are 3 different ones. Socket 754, and a winchester core socket 939, or a venice core socket 939. Venice is the best, 754 is the uh, least best. All the socket 939 3000s are 1.8 ghz but the 754 is 2, so youve got the good one. It will overclock very very well though with the right setup.

[Miscue]

Thank you Kosmo it's so much more clear for me now.In the memtest, if it spots errors what will it do, will it fix them or just tell me about it?
edit: also, How do I know how far to overclock my processor? I'm buying an AMD 64 3000 with 1.8 ghz.

Won't fix them... because it typically means something is defective. When a memory test fails, this does not necessarily mean that your memory is bad. Bad CPUs, motherboards, etc. can produce memory errors as well (even though the system memory could be working perfectly). All you know is that something isn't working right... you have to figure out what.

You don't need to OC your chip. The gains you get from it are minimal (without extreme OCing), and are more of a psychological advantage than actual. Let's say you increase your chip from 2.2 GHz to 2.4 GHz. 2.2/2.4 = about 8% increase in performance, right? NOPE!!! Impossible... it does not work that way... it's less than that... which isn't a big deal.

If you OC a little... will it hurt anything? Nah. I personally just don't care anymore to bother... if you want to mess with it... go for it.

The golden age of OCing has come and gone...

[kosmo]

You don't need to OC your chip. The gains you get from it are minimal

BLASPHEMY!

[FreakBaller12]

There's the mobo I'm getting

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130484

Also, does anybody have the order of which I should put things together in? or a recommendation?

It's a venice socket 939

[NJPaint]

CPU and Ram onto motherboard before you put the motherboard into the case. After that its all up to you.

Sorry I can't help you this weekend, I'm going to be out of internet contact until monday, but I guess for me.... thats a good thing.

[NJPaint]

btw, saw these today:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440

$80 for 1 gig of DDR3200

[Dayspring]

Only put the basics into the machine to make it run...

CPU, Memory, HDD, CD/DVD, Video Card.

Install the OS.

Once you do that, install the add-in cards ONE AT A TIME. That way you can figure out what doesn't play well with the others if something does get jacked up/locked up.

And my personal thing- never put the case back on until you are COMPLETELY finished and know it's working 100%.

[NJPaint]

Only put the basics into the machine to make it run...

CPU, Memory, HDD, CD/DVD, Video Card.

Install the OS.

Once you do that, install the add-in cards ONE AT A TIME. That way you can figure out what doesn't play well with the others if something does get jacked up/locked up.

And my personal thing- never put the case back on until you are COMPLETELY finished and know it's working 100%.

hmmmm my case still isn't put together and its been 3 years...

[FreakBaller12]

CPU and Ram onto motherboard before you put the motherboard into the case. After that its all up to you.

Sorry I can't help you this weekend, I'm going to be out of internet contact until monday, but I guess for me.... thats a good thing.

lol maybe for you, but not for me!
This is going to be fun though, I'll let you know how good or bad it goes

What does jacked up exactly mean, everybody keeps referring to it. Does that mean just not working?

[NJPaint]

Simple answer, yes, simply means broken.

My personal take on it. Batches of computer parts always have defective products, but because of the number produced, they don't check every single one. Thus, randomly something won't work. However, this is slightly over hyped here. I keep a catalog of every time I've had to RMA or return somethign that was DOA (dead on arrival). I can tell you that out of 150+ Hard drives that I've bought and installed, only 4 of them were DOA and after switching to Western Digital completely, I haven't had a bad one since. Ram, I've sent back 6, lord knows how many sticks of these I've had. (more than hard drives at least) Motherboards, here is soemthing interesting, I've returned exactly 10% of all motherboards made by asus within the first year. I've never returned an MSI or an Abit motherboard and I had to return only one Intel and only one Tyan motherboard.

Its too bad the timing of your buying. I finally have some extra stuff that you could use and you already have it. I just got 12, yes twelve, 250 gb Western Digital hard drives. Thats a total of 3 terrabytes. No way in hell I'd ever use that much space. I already sold 4 of them, but now I have all these drives lying around.



PS anyone reading this thread, you want a hard drive I have a lot of them. $85 shipped I'll make a classified post later. They have been used for only 6 months sporatically in a server.

[Miscue]

BLASPHEMY!

Bah. Not blasphemy... it's called I've been doing this too long to give a crap about OCing anymore.

There was a time when you could increase the clock speed by 50-100% - you could just get some really wicked results. The performance gains you get now, in comparison to old school gains... is not even close... hence my perspective on "minimal gains." Seriously, if you do a double-blind test... it's slightly noticeable if at all.

[FreakBaller12]

What the heck's with my bad timing and you having a bajillion(yes bajillion) computer parts and you being away or something like that. I got a 200 gig western digital HD for exactly 60 shipped after rebate. Meh.

[Miscue]

Simple answer, yes, simply means broken.

My personal take on it. Batches of computer parts always have defective products, but because of the number produced, they don't check every single one. Thus, randomly something won't work. However, this is slightly over hyped here. I keep a catalog of every time I've had to RMA or return somethign that was DOA (dead on arrival). I can tell you that out of 150+ Hard drives that I've bought and installed, only 4 of them were DOA and after switching to Western Digital completely, I haven't had a bad one since. Ram, I've sent back 6, lord knows how many sticks of these I've had. (more than hard drives at least) Motherboards, here is soemthing interesting, I've returned exactly 10% of all motherboards made by asus within the first year. I've never returned an MSI or an Abit motherboard and I had to return only one Intel and only one Tyan motherboard.

Its too bad the timing of your buying. I finally have some extra stuff that you could use and you already have it. I just got 12, yes twelve, 250 gb Western Digital hard drives. Thats a total of 3 terrabytes. No way in hell I'd ever use that much space. I already sold 4 of them, but now I have all these drives lying around.



PS anyone reading this thread, you want a hard drive I have a lot of them. $85 shipped I'll make a classified post later. They have been used for only 6 months sporatically in a server.

Yeah... they can only catch the parts with obvious/total failures. It's the intermittant ones that pass QC... and you end up getting in your hands. Those are the fun ones to try to diagnose... when it's difficult or time consuming to reproduce the problems.

[FreakBaller12]

This is going to be tricky, hopeful my first build won't have any defects or I'll be sitting here friday totally confused/pissed.

[kosmo]

Ok youve got a very overclockable processor, and a great overclocking motherboard. What memory are you getting, and what are you using for CPU cooling? That processor can be pushed pretty freakin far, especially the venice core ones if thats what youre getting. Theres plenty of people running those at 2.5 ghz on basic air cooling, which whether certain blasphemers want to admit it or not is quite an improvement.