GTA taken out of stores?? what with hillary clinton and raitings. im moving to canada

[tropical_fishy]

I think its hilarious that this game had to get pulled for a hidden sex game of all things. The whole basis of the game is violence, murder, theft, corruption, blood and havok in general...much worse activities than hot coffe really. The american attitude towards sex is so insane that we let the kiddies pull the trigger on cops and civilians (and gangs for that matter), but God forbid they see some sex! I'm just waiting for a teen to come home with his preggers gf and blame it on a video game.

That said, GTA is a great game. Obviously not for kids and if the parents need the gov to tell them that, they need to put the kids up for adoption and go buy a fish, cause thats about the level of responsability I'd trust em with...

Amen

[WickeDKlowN]

Let's see here. One more ho until my pimp mission is done. When that's over, I think I might go run down some pedestrians and take their money, kill any cops that get in my way, and chop up a few people with a chainsaw. Then I have to intercept some drug money and fly a toy plane into a building.

Yeah, now that I can see a fully cloathed man hump a poorly rendered naked woman after using an external device and a long list of codes, this totally needs an AO rating.

[hitech]

I am a parent of kids who love video games. I for one am glad to see this game getting an AO rating. It should. Why is anyone complaining? What do you have against this rating?

To those who say it's all up to the parents, you must not be one yet. There are many, many times when your 11-year child is not in your direct control. You can't preview every movie, video game, etc. before they see it. Sometimes they will be exposed to it at other kids houses. Other parents who had NO idea this existed may unwilling allow their child to play this game and expose both of them. Kids are really good at finding the cheat codes for the games they play. And until reading this article I never thought anything of it. Had I not watched a report on TV about GTA I would have never known there was a problem.

Video games are targeted at children. If they start including age inappropriate stuff in them and without the proper ratings you WILL see government intervention. And I will support it, even though I am a staunch smaller govt. type.

[jpdgas]

Meh

[sbpyro]

I am a parent of kids who love video games. I for one am glad to see this game getting an AO rating. It should. Why is anyone complaining? What do you have against this rating?

Not really against the AO rating but I believe it should have had that rating when you were allowed to kill ppl at random. My roommate use to see how long he could last in a standoff against the police, fbi, and national guard in the game, it was funny but I don't think being able to beat someone to death with a sexual aid is appropriate for any kids. I personally thought the original GTA through GTA 3 were pretty good for an original idea for mature adults who can seperate reality from fiction (then again I'm aiming high).

To those who say it's all up to the parents, you must not be one yet. There are many, many times when your 11-year child is not in your direct control. You can't preview every movie, video game, etc. before they see it. Sometimes they will be exposed to it at other kids houses. Other parents who had NO idea this existed may unwilling allow their child to play this game and expose both of them. Kids are really good at finding the cheat codes for the games they play. And until reading this article I never thought anything of it. Had I not watched a report on TV about GTA I would have never known there was a problem.

You are right that parents cannot be everywhere they kids are but how kids learn and deal with these situations do need to be address by parents. I find it a little disturbing that parents didn't have more outrage over the fact that you could pick up a hooker , have some fun in the car and then proceed to kill the hooker to regain some of the money that was used. Are we saying that sex is so inappropriate but violence is fine? As for not knowing about the problem with GTA it did have a mature rating 17+, and just the name of the game
Grand Theft Auto. So is the concept of being able to carjack someone (and it can be very violent if you choose to) acceptable for kids to be looking at. Or even stealling a parked car (The whupping that I got from my folks when I did it, I learned stealing is not acceptable quickly ).

Video games are targeted at children. If they start including age inappropriate stuff in them and without the proper ratings you WILL see government intervention. And I will support it, even though I am a staunch smaller govt. type.

The ratings are also voluntary. Heck if you look at music how many of the latest hits have explicit rating on it vs the ones that don't. It has almost become a badge of honor to have an explicit rating. Heck I'm pretty sure GTA san andreas sales were starting to drop so to fund their next project (GTA: Las Vegas????) they probably leaked it into the press. They did the same thing when Vice city was starting to lose steam. Ppl realize this is just free advertisement for them. Heck I refuse to own any of the GTA games cuz I think they are a novel game but I just can't get into the stupidity of the game some times (ex you beat someone to death and everyone runs away for 2 sec before returning to be the next victim.

[hitech]

Actually, many of the "other" reasons you listed is why they aren't allowed to play it. However, he has played it, at a friends house. i have to believe that if it had an Adults Only rating his friends parents would not have allowed them to play it. And if they did I would know not to allow him over there anymore.

[jpdgas]

Meh

[hitech]

I don't. However, because the rating system isn't very good, some of the MA rated games are fine. That being said, the other parents shouldn't have let them play it anyway (it was the first GTA version I believe, if that makes any difference). And he hasn't been back since I found out, althought that is necessarily the reason. But it certainly changed my opinion of said parents.

[WickeDKlowN]

Why is anyone complaining? What do you have against this rating?

Because for them to change the rating of a game based on something that you CAN'T EVEN ACCESS without buying an Action Replay for PS2 or downloading a mod for PC is simply stupid. It's not like some little kid is going to stumble upon it. If you see "Hot Coffee" it's because YOU WANTED TO.

Oh well, most people that wanted it before probobly already have it, and people that didn't know too much about it now probobly want it to see what the fuss is about. It's win-win for Rockstar.

[latches109]

I like the mom(mad about hidden porn) saying how computer savvy her kid is, when little does she know about her sons 100 gig kazza porn file.


"Lawyers for 18-year-old Devin Moore, accused of killing police officers, are blaming that game for a cold-blooded shooting spree that took place in Alabama."


"What happened to just plain crazy people?" -chris rock-

and i'm certain there are many low, low, income parents ready to sue for a piece of that two billion dollar pie.

[sbpyro]

I don't. However, because the rating system isn't very good, some of the MA rated games are fine. That being said, the other parents shouldn't have let them play it anyway (it was the first GTA version I believe, if that makes any difference). And he hasn't been back since I found out, althought that is necessarily the reason. But it certainly changed my opinion of said parents.

I'm not sure what your definition of MA rated games being fine. but that is your opinion.
And as for parents that ignore the ratings they are the ones that are allowing this to happen shame on them. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be the first version of GTA. More likely GTAIII, or GTA: vice city. (Same engine diffrent city) but the violence and picking up of streetwalkers were still in those versions.

My question is how you have addressed it to your child why that is not right for him or her?
Cuz I know when I was a kid anything my parents say I couldn't do just created more of a need to do it.

My mom actually stopped my binge drinking at 17 by buying me a keg it took a lot of fun of the drinking illegally if your mom didn't care. (but times are different now a days cuz mom would be in jail for doing such a thing.)

[hitech]

I'm not sure what your definition of MA rated games being fine. but that is your opinion.

I saw nothing in Halo 2 that I felt was a problem.

[hitech]

My question is how you have addressed it to your child why that is not right for him or her?

Actually, I got lucky. First, he thought the game was boring. That probably means he didn't discover any of that stuff, or didn't understand it. He also hasn't been back to that kids house. I told him the game had age inappropriate stuff in it and he wasn't allowed to play it, REGARDLESS of what any other adult said. He is use to that reasoning and we have been successful in the past. We have to do that with their Dad (I'm step-dad).

[sbpyro]

Actually, I got lucky. First, he thought the game was boring. That probably means he didn't discover any of that stuff, or didn't understand it. He also hasn't been back to that kids house. I told him the game had age inappropriate stuff in it and he wasn't allowed to play it, REGARDLESS of what any other adult said. He is use to that reasoning and we have been successful in the past. We have to do that with their Dad (I'm step-dad).

I'm glad to hear that he found the game boring (not a favorite of mine either). All I can say is good luck once he starts getting a little older. I think Halo 2 got a Mature rating for violence also but I find that it is more of a fantasy type of violence (aliens and all) where as GTA is more realistic setting. I'm also pretty sure that Halo wanted a mature rating to boost it sales.