Can you get more anti-American? (gah this is depressing)

[FactsOfLife]

Hey FactsOfLife:

Thanks for reposting your crap email that someone sent you. It was well-representitive of the entirety of US - Middle Eastern relations, especially in the 20th century. Now, back to NewsMax and the Post with you.

Thanks,

AO

And you are who again?

This entire thread makes me happy that children like yourselves aren't in charge of public policy in this country.

Idiots.

Now I know why I took 6 months off from this asylum. The inmates are running it.

[lather]

Yes, someone else wrote it. And that invalidates it exactly how?

For every Ted Kocinsky and McVeigh there are literally HUNDREDS of militant IslamoFascists that have commited acts of terror that fit this profile.

Congrats on your newly outspoken stance in defense of terrorism. Your parent must be so proud.

You are a classic example of the Useful Idiot.

Now go stand in the corner with Osama and Moore. Failure.

Classic neo-conservative response-- accuse anyone with a difference of opinion as being a traitor!! Big thumbs up for you!!

By the way hope you feel the same about Carl Rove.

Instituting profiling and anything else that compromises American ideals, freedoms and the American way of life means the terrorists are winning.

[Yama]

Now go stand in the corner with Osama and Moore. Failure.

At least they stand up for what they believe in. Our gov. doesn't seem to be.

[FactsOfLife]

Classic neo-conservative response-- accuse anyone with a difference of opinion as being a traitor!! Big thumbs up for you!!

By the way hope you feel the same about Carl Rove.

Instituting profiling and anything else that compromises American ideals, freedoms and the American way of life means the terrorists are winning.

The lol. I knew the pseudo-libs would come crawling out from under their rocks the minute I shoved reality back in their faces.


Carl Rove huh? Yeah the FACT that Joe Wilson outted his own "undercover" wife on his website YEARS before this nonsense got started means nothing to you.

Man you liberals were practically wetting yourselves over this weren't you. Shame that yet again, the truth of the matter is worse for the lying Joe Wilson, than it is for the hated Karl Rove. You guys thought for damned sure you had "Bush's Brain" all tied up and on his way outta DC. Nice try, you don't get your quarter back though.

Yes let's not institute profiling. Let's let any Middle Eastern looking person on any airplane, subway, bus, ferry or whatever with no checks in the name of social justice! YAY Political Correctness wins again!

Better yet, let's take your insane thinking one step further. Let's TELL them we aren't going to do any searches whatsoever. Think that'll get 'em to stop wanting to kill every man, woman, and child in this country? Are you that naive? Are you that stupid?

You liberals are a neverending source of entertainment. Why, the amazing hypocrisy alone makes listening to you worthwhile!

As for my leaving, seems to me you libs are doing all the *****ing here, better that you should pack up for France, or better yet, Barcelona Spain. I hear they're bending over backwards for the terrorists, just like you are.

[FactsOfLife]

At least they stand up for what they believe in. Our gov. doesn't seem to be.

Yeah flying a couple of our jets into the Trade Centers is something I'd like to associate my belief system with...


go you....

[Jaan]

If you can justify why we need to screen children and older women, tell me right now because its not them who are killing thousands of inocent lifes around the world.

Because if you screen everyone BUT them, then they will be the next terrorists.

Religion is a drug, and is particularly addictive to youngsters and old people. Plenty of 10 year olds carry AK-47's in the middle east. Also, younger children could be used as couriers too without even knowing it. How many crack dealers stash their drugs in a baby diaper? Why should someone be left alone because they're old? I guess you've never met a seriously racist 85 year old Jesus freak. All some crazy old lady would need is a vial of smallpox and her place in the afterlife would be assured

Islam is just the brainwashing God lets me kill cult of the day. Quite frankly any religion, or idea for that matter, could be corrupted by a few fruit loops. Should we harass anyone with a tie dye because of Charles Manson?

[Jaan]

Yes, someone else wrote it. And that invalidates it exactly how?

For every Ted Kocinsky and McVeigh there are literally HUNDREDS of militant IslamoFascists that have commited acts of terror that fit this profile.

Hang on, I thought the ones who have actually commited an act of terror blow themselves up in the process, how can there be any left? Are you sure you're not talking about the Irish?

[spantol]

Why does this matter? When the Fat Aryan Procrastinators Front gets around to knocking a building down, I'll understand some additional diligence being thrown my way.

In the mean time, if you're going to search at all, it makes sense to concentrate on those matching a profile. Pattern recognition is one of the most basic survival skills, political correctness be damned. The world ain't all rainbows and bunnies.

On the other hand, I'd love to see some evidence that these searches are accomplishing anything. Is there any documented evidence of an action being thwarted by this or a similar policy, or are its proponents making the awe-inspiring logical leap that the mere act of searching is itself a deterant? 'Cos if they're not effective, I'd kinda like to have my 4th amendment back.

If you were an American-Muslim between the age of 17 and 40, would you want to be profiled and searched?

[spantol]

Should we harass anyone with a tie dye because of Charles Manson?

Anyone with tye-died clothing should indeed be harassed, though not necessarily because of Charles Manson.

[drg]

On the other hand, I'd love to see some evidence that these searches are accomplishing anything. Is there any documented evidence of an action being thwarted by this or a similar policy, or are its proponents making the awe-inspiring logical leap that the mere act of searching is itself a deterant? 'Cos if they're not effective, I'd kinda like to have my 4th amendment back.

Or worse yet, could it be pushing people closer to extremism than they might otherwise be? For example, the Iraq war has been shown to be doing just that, despite what its proponents claim about its effectiveness.

[slade]

If you were an American-Muslim between the age of 17 and 40, would you want to be profiled and searched?

if you are a 15 year old american-indian who was a citizen of the united arab emirites, would you want to be the only one stopped and questioned in an airport on a school field trip that had its OWN PLANE?

yes that happened, my best friend is an indian who was born in the united arab emirites and he is not a US citizen as of yet. ive been on four plane flights with him so far and he has been the only one stopped and questioned (like where are you from, where are you going, why are you traveling, etc.) even though our school had a private plane, he goes to our school, and is in the middle of a huge group of kids his age. and this is just because of his race, he dresses just like anyone else and speaks english perfectly. and i was absolutely fine with security, even though im the one dressing in all black, sunglasses and baggy pants, and i set off the alarm about 4 or 5 times before being able to go thorough successfully. and yes, my friend WAS quite a bit upset with it, because hes lived here as long as i can remember and hes still not accepted/trusted, at least in airports.

[spantol]

That's the real problem with profiling--many of the profilers are stupid. Don't blame the methodology for the shortcomings of the execution.

if you are a 15 year old american-indian who was a citizen of the united arab emirites, would you want to be the only one stopped and questioned in an airport on a school field trip that had its OWN PLANE?

[lather]

The lol. I knew the pseudo-libs would come crawling out from under their rocks the minute I shoved reality back in their faces.


Carl Rove huh? Yeah the FACT that Joe Wilson outted his own "undercover" wife on his website YEARS before this nonsense got started means nothing to you.

Man you liberals were practically wetting yourselves over this weren't you. Shame that yet again, the truth of the matter is worse for the lying Joe Wilson, than it is for the hated Karl Rove. You guys thought for damned sure you had "Bush's Brain" all tied up and on his way outta DC. Nice try, you don't get your quarter back though.

Yes let's not institute profiling. Let's let any Middle Eastern looking person on any airplane, subway, bus, ferry or whatever with no checks in the name of social justice! YAY Political Correctness wins again!

Better yet, let's take your insane thinking one step further. Let's TELL them we aren't going to do any searches whatsoever. Think that'll get 'em to stop wanting to kill every man, woman, and child in this country? Are you that naive? Are you that stupid?

You liberals are a neverending source of entertainment. Why, the amazing hypocrisy alone makes listening to you worthwhile!

As for my leaving, seems to me you libs are doing all the *****ing here, better that you should pack up for France, or better yet, Barcelona Spain. I hear they're bending over backwards for the terrorists, just like you are.

Lol! Im as moderate as they come, anyone that doesnt agree with you is automatically a Liberal huh??

Keep painting yourself into a corner.


Sorry you cant accept the fact that sometimes traitors are conservatives too. I dont blame you, after years of name calling and questioning people's patriotism of those that dont agree with ya, it can be quite disconcerting to have a traitor in your own ranks.


Im sure you also would be fine with painting the word MUSLIM on all Muslim owned shops in the US too.. I know! How about we paint a symbol on them too, so the average American can spot a Muslim much more easier!

Its just a shame you have no respect for the ideals of freedom, and liberty.

[Destructo6]

The point of fact is that the police and homeland security say that it isn't effective and is against the constitution and yet you still you post this mindless dribble. Thank you McCarthy,

What is constitutional and effective may be two entirely different things. What they say is, "not effective" may simply be a smoke-screen for what is effective, but unconstitutional.

ive been on four plane flights with him so far and he has been the only one stopped and questioned (like where are you from, where are you going, why are you traveling, etc.) even though our school had a private plane, he goes to our school, and is in the middle of a huge group of kids his age.

Immigration checks at a Port of Entry (POE) are 100% reasonable for anyone not a US citizen. It is the stock and trade of all CBP officers. And yes, the US has a right to inspect, remove, deport, etc any non-citizen.

[Jaan]

It's ironic ... I'm sitting here digesting the extremist viewpoints I've read so far, and the more I think about it the more I believe that white right wing conservative creationists *should* be searched too

They teach eeeeevolution at that there pinko liberal Harvard school ... praise Jeeeeeeeeesus! <boom>