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  • Echo419
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 2614

    #1

    Filing a Police Report For Mail Fraud?

    I need to know every thing about filing a report for mail fraud... He nevert payed me the 625 for my angel.
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  • slade
    Carpe Noctem
    • Apr 2004
    • 3442

    #2
    Originally posted by Echo419
    I need to know every thing about filing a report for mail fraud... He nevert payed me the 625 for my angel.
    i remember seeing a sticky or at least a thread on an online mail fraud application, it might have been pbn?
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    • Echo419
      Registered User
      • Sep 2003
      • 2614

      #3
      Im just going to call the police dpt.
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      • BobTheCow
        IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
        • Dec 2002
        • 3832

        #4
        It's a federal thing. Good luck with getting anything accomplished, I know when I filed a couple years ago after a deal went sour, nothing ever came of it.
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        • pointm@n
          Out to pasture...
          • Aug 2003
          • 1041

          #5
          so you shipped first? hope he had a lot of feedback.
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          • Muzikman
            Everything AGD
            • Dec 2000
            • 6229

            #6
            http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors...dComplaint.htm

            It's quick, easy, free so it can't hurt to give it a shot.

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            • Steelrat
              I meant to...uh, nevermind
              • May 2003
              • 5375

              #7
              Sounds more like wire fraud to me, though technically if you sent it via the US mail, the mail was used in the furtherance of the fraud, and so could be considered mail fraud.

              Did you keep all supporting documents, i.e. emails, PMs, AIM logs? Did you document any conversations you had? Remember, in situations like this, documentation is KING.

              I thought you had talked to his stepfather? What was the outcome of it? What city/state does the suspect live in?

              If you answer these questions I might be able to steer you in the right direction.


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              • Destructo6
                Registered User
                • Apr 2004
                • 549

                #8
                Contacting the local police department, who has jurisdiction over the recipient's address, may get quick results. Call them, give them the situation, address, and other information.

                I've filed at the FBI's internet fraud site and have heard the guy had been arrested. Of course, he'd made a habit of ripping off folks who would not lie down.
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                • Steelrat
                  I meant to...uh, nevermind
                  • May 2003
                  • 5375

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Destructo6
                  Contacting the local police department, who has jurisdiction over the recipient's address, may get quick results. Call them, give them the situation, address, and other information.

                  I've filed at the FBI's internet fraud site and have heard the guy had been arrested. Of course, he'd made a habit of ripping off folks who would not lie down.
                  I'd be surprised if it was the FBI that did anything. They don't touch stuff below, say, $100K.


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                  • Tunaman
                    Specialized AGD Tech

                    • Dec 2000
                    • 8643

                    #10
                    Good luck getting your money back or having the guy arrested for mail fraud. A while back I got ripped off on Ebay for 630 bucks. I filed a mail fraud report, and the Postal Inspector even went to the biotchs house, where she admitted cashing my money order. That was the end of it. The Postal Service does not have the resources/will not prosecute if the amount is under 10 grand or so. Don't be fooled into thinking the Postal service will lift one stinking finger for the average Joe that gets ripped off. It appears that I am S.O L. as told buy the Postal service. I even contacted the local PD where she lives and was told it was a federal thing so there is nothing they can do. I loose...she wins. Some day soon she may find out who she beat... Biotch!

                    Get the name and address of the person that ripped you off and just go to a Lawyer and have a judgement filed against him/her. That will ruin her next major purchase.
                    I am also contacting the Attorney General and maybe he can get the lead out of the Postal Services' Arse. I suspect someone is going to loose their job if I continue to scream loud enough.
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                    • Steelrat
                      I meant to...uh, nevermind
                      • May 2003
                      • 5375

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tunaman
                      Good luck getting your money back or having the guy arrested for mail fraud. A while back I got ripped off on Ebay for 630 bucks. I filed a mail fraud report, and the Postal Inspector even went to the biotchs house, where she admitted cashing my money order. That was the end of it. The Postal Service does not have the resources/will not prosecute if the amount is under 10 grand or so. Don't be fooled into thinking the Postal service will lift one stinking finger for the average Joe that gets ripped off. It appears that I am S.O L. as told buy the Postal service. I even contacted the local PD where she lives and was told it was a federal thing so there is nothing they can do. I loose...she wins. Some day soon she may find out who she beat... Biotch!

                      Get the name and address of the person that ripped you off and just go to a Lawyer and have a judgement filed against him/her. That will ruin her next major purchase.
                      Just remember, the Inspectors, police, FBI, and all other law enforcement officers are merely investigators. Its up the DA or USA to decide if they actually want to prosecute a case. In some localities NO ONE will prosecute cases under a certain threshold, even if there is overwhelming evidence.

                      That having been said, I sent you a PM Tuna.


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                      • Tunaman
                        Specialized AGD Tech

                        • Dec 2000
                        • 8643

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steelrat
                        Just remember, the Inspectors, police, FBI, and all other law enforcement officers are merely investigators. Its up the DA or USA to decide if they actually want to prosecute a case. In some localities NO ONE will prosecute cases under a certain threshold, even if there is overwhelming evidence.

                        That having been said, I sent you a PM Tuna.
                        Quoted for truth. Apparently my 630 bucks does not qualify for prosecution so she gets away with it free and clear. Does the fact that it was a 5000 dollar computer have any merit in there decision making? Thanks SteelRat!
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                        • MoneyShot
                          Automag Lover
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 194

                          #13
                          that sucks on how you got ripped off like that

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                          • Timmee
                            eBay addict
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 1770

                            #14
                            I've been involved with a couple of transactions where the person attempted to fleece me of my hard earned money. In one instance, calling the police department in the person's town got the situation resolved (it took them a few days to call the guy up, as they were in the middle of a murder investigation, but they still made sure to follow through). End result was I got a full refund. The second situation involved an eBay purchase (watercooling kit for a computer). I was strung along by this guy (who said he'd sent it to the wrong address, and was just waiting for it to return), until one day, I couldn't contact him anymore. He changed his number and moved from where he was. I'd called the police like the first situation, but they told me my only recourse was civil court. I got lucky, in that I was still able to track him down (he'd had the MO sent to his grandmother's house). I got his grandmother, and eventually his mother involved, and his mother made sure he sent it to me.

                            Make sure that if you do end up filing in small claims court, you do so in your jurisdiction. The other party will have to travel to your area to defend themselves, which usually causes the person to want to settle the situation (the travel costs can end up costing more than the money they owe).
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                            • CaptaiN_JacK
                              will get you high tonight
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 947

                              #15
                              Here are a couple decent (and bad) ideas, some I have had to do myself and others are untested:

                              1. Send an email with either a link or a screenshot of the Mail Fraud page Muzik posted. I did this a couple of times to a guy who was taking months to pay me $80 and close a deal and about 3 weeks after I threatened him with mail fraud he finally paid me. If the guy is an experienced scammer this technique might not work since he probably knows everything the USPS will (or more accuratly, won't) do. Also, if you say you filed the form for mail fraud and nothing does happen to him, you'll never get your money back. At that point he'll realize he's untouchable.

                              2. Look up his telephone number on the internet if you can and have an adult call him. It should be an adult, since a teenage kid isn't very intimidating. Threaten legal action or that you'll call the cops, even though you actually can't do that it will still scare him a little. If you get too bold he'll know you're blowing smoke.

                              3. If he lives close enough, or you know someone who lives relativly close to him, go over to his house. He may or may not have given you his actual home address, but it's worth a shot.

                              4. Send anthrax to the shipping address he provided.

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