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  • Automaggin2
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 2506

    #1

    Looks like Venezuela is trying to push our buttons now.

    So much hostility in the world. Now Venezuala pres Huge Chavez is starting to play games with us.

    CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez told thousands of visiting students that if U.S. forces were to invade the South American country, they would be soundly defeated.

    The U.S. government has strongly denied Chavez's claims that it is considering military action against Cuba's closest ally in the Americas.

    But Chavez said late Monday that the U.S. government, which "won't stop caressing the idea of invading Cuba or invading Venezuela," should be warned of the consequences.

    "If someday they get the crazy idea of coming to invade us, we'll make them bite the dust defending the freedom of our land," Chavez said to applause.

    He spoke during the opening ceremony of a world youth festival bringing together student delegations from across the world and convened under the slogan "Against Imperialism and War."

    Chavez called the United States the "most savage, cruel and murderous empire that has existed in the history of the world."

    The Venezuelan leader said "socialism is the only path," and told the students the collective goal is to "save a world threatened by the voracity of U.S. imperialism."

    Earlier, the students waved flags, danced in traditional dress, and held signs praising socialism, Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Ernesto "Che" Guevara.

    More than 300 students from the United States shouted out their disapproval of U.S. President George W. Bush, chanting "Get out Bush!" Other students chanted: "Bush, fascist -- you're a terrorist!"

    Some 15,000 youths from 144 countries traveled to Venezuela for the weeklong festival and conference, organizers said.

    Chavez wore a red shirt like many of the students, and embraced delegation leaders as their groups marched past.

    The ceremony was held in Venezuela's military headquarters in Caracas. Troops looked on while students passed carrying colored flags and shouting: "We will overcome!"

    This year's World Festival of Students and Youth is the 16th. The first, in 1947, was held in Czechoslovakia, and during the Cold War most host countries were aligned with the Soviet bloc.

    Apart from the former Soviet Union, other host countries have included Romania, Poland, Finland, Cuba, the former East Germany and North Korea.

    The weeklong gathering will include musical performances, panel discussions and an "Anti-imperialist Court," which in past years has condemned the U.S. government's actions.

    While tensions have grown between Chavez and Washington, the Venezuelan leader has built close ties with countries from Iran to China.

    Chavez expressed his support Monday for Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, saying he expects to continue strengthening relations. Chavez said like Venezuela, Iran is a country that has been "attacked" for many years by "the hand of imperialism."

    Chavez, whose country remains a major supplier of oil to the United States, also is sharply critical of the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Dub V

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  • SlartyBartFast
    The Flying Scotsman
    • Jun 2002
    • 2940

    #2
    In a world where a leader can be accepted saying "You're with us or against us." how is any of this surprising?

    How do you respond to such things? Don't have "buttons" to push. Smile and ignore.

    Be the better human.

    Then, the truly vile can be fought and those in the middle will be swayed.

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    • Automaggin2
      Registered User
      • Sep 2002
      • 2506

      #3
      He's testing us. Since when has socialism been the best form of government?
      Dub V

      Where greatness is learned
      and couches are burned

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      • SlartyBartFast
        The Flying Scotsman
        • Jun 2002
        • 2940

        #4
        Originally posted by Automaggin2
        He's testing us. Since when has socialism been the best form of government?
        Labels are pathetic.

        Perfectly functional forms of "Socialism" work well in many western european countries and Canada.

        That's what's wrong with the world today. Pathetically limited thinking demanding that something is either the "best" or is is not. Decaliring that the US is the BEST despite obvious and easy to point out failures only allows the crackpots to recruit more people and cause more tension in the world.

        Growth occurs when you're mature enough to admit to your own weaknesses, other's strengths, and accpet differing points of view.

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        • Kevmaster
          Owners Group Div: Director
          • Oct 2001
          • 5475

          #5
          eh...

          i hope theytry to invade us

          lets see how well that works out for them
          oh...thats right...the american military is the only military capable of projecting force outside its adjacent borders

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          • B.A.M.
            Operation Ivy
            • Jan 2004
            • 1468

            #6
            Originally posted by Automaggin2
            More than 300 students from the United States shouted out their disapproval of U.S. President George W. Bush, chanting "Get out Bush!" Other students chanted: "Bush, fascist -- you're a terrorist!"
            Damn pot smoking, libral students. When will they ever learn. Do they really think that john kerry would have been better. No the country would have been invaded.
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            • Jeffy-CanCon
              veteran rec player
              • May 2003
              • 1309

              #7
              Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
              Labels are pathetic.

              Perfectly functional forms of "Socialism" work well in many western european countries and Canada.
              I think you are confusing socialism with the welfare state. All Western countries are capitalist democracies (or constitutional monarchies). Some still make use of significant state-owned industries in key sectors, but capitalism is the general rule.

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              • Steelrat
                I meant to...uh, nevermind
                • May 2003
                • 5375

                #8
                But Chavez said late Monday that the U.S. government, which "won't stop caressing the idea of invading Cuba or invading Venezuela," should be warned of the consequences.
                Yeah, thats right on our list behind invading Burkina Fasso and Luxembourgh.

                "If someday they get the crazy idea of coming to invade us, we'll make them bite the dust defending the freedom of our land," Chavez said to applause.
                AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

                Chavez called the United States the "most savage, cruel and murderous empire that has existed in the history of the world."
                Yeah, the whole Nazi Germany and Khmer Rouge things were totally blown out of proportion, the US is BY FAR the worst.

                More than 300 students from the United States shouted out their disapproval of U.S. President George W. Bush, chanting "Get out Bush!" Other students chanted: "Bush, fascist -- you're a terrorist!"
                Proving that even free countries produce their fair share of idiots. I don't mind someone slamming the President, but they shouldn't be doing it right after a foreign leader has made a speech about killing US troops, defeating the US, etc etc.

                Chavez, whose country remains a major supplier of oil to the United States, also is sharply critical of the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
                I guess there should have been a big sign over the conference stating "Sponsored by the United States." If we are so terrible, why does his country sell us oil? Hypocrite.

                Who wants to bet that Venezuela recieved US foriegn aid every year?


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                • drg
                  Half-cocked
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1112

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Automaggin2
                  He's testing us. Since when has socialism been the best form of government?
                  Since the idea of "best" government has been open to interpretation.
                  View my feedback here

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                  • SlartyBartFast
                    The Flying Scotsman
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 2940

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steelrat
                    If we are so terrible, why does his country sell us oil? Hypocrite.
                    If they're so terrible, why do business with them and buy? Hypocrites.

                    Moral posturing and absolutes by any world leader is pure hypocrisy.

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                    • Steelrat
                      I meant to...uh, nevermind
                      • May 2003
                      • 5375

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                      If they're so terrible, why do business with them and buy? Hypocrites.

                      Moral posturing and absolutes by any world leader is pure hypocrisy.
                      I'm sorry, when did I say Venezula was terrible? I thought so.


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                      • Chipper

                        #12
                        I say we don't let the students back in. As I always say, "If you don't like it, leave. Then I don't have to put up with your bull."

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                        • CaptaiN_JacK
                          will get you high tonight
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 947

                          #13
                          Could there be a cahnce, just this little possibility that he IS right and that our government IS the bad guy? This kind of reminds me of when Chile became a Communist country back in 1970. President Allende was a great leader and the new government was WONDERFUL. Then the US pulled some strings, helped crash their economy, and helped the military overthrow the liberal government (after assassinating a general or two that wouldn't cooperate with their plans).

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                          Freedom is slavery

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                          • Steelrat
                            I meant to...uh, nevermind
                            • May 2003
                            • 5375

                            #14
                            Sure, the US did some not-so-nice stuff in the past, but do you REALLY think we are going to invade his country? And do you really think we are the most evil empire the world has ever seen? What have we done to Venezula lately to warrant his reaction?


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                            • CaptaiN_JacK
                              will get you high tonight
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 947

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steelrat
                              Sure, the US did some not-so-nice stuff in the past, but do you REALLY think we are going to invade his country? And do you really think we are the most evil empire the world has ever seen? What have we done to Venezula lately to warrant his reaction?
                              I know we aren't going to invade his country, nor ever will, but that doesn't mean we can't screw with it in other ways. He claims the DEA has been using the drug war as a cover to spy on his government. I can't say this is true or not, but I will say that it's a definite possibility. We may have got over our McCarthy-period, but our government still hates Communism with a passion. Anything is possible.

                              War is peace

                              Freedom is slavery

                              Ignorance is strength

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