Ack Gas prices

[Lohman446]

Ok - yesterday they went to 2.99 a gallon, this morning it went to 3.48 - I know there was a hurricane that effects 10-15% of our oil... but this is just stupid people

[FreakBaller12]

I think ours is around 2.20ish still. I didn't check yesterday. Don't we(New Jersians) get it the cheapest because most of US's gas comes through por elizabeth here in NJ?

[Resurection]

No idea about Jersey, I would expect higher there due to the all the extra taxes in that state. Florida is hitting the 2.70's as of last night. I don't want to look today.

I know that it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better though....

[shartley]

Sam's Club memberships sure paid off this year for Gas alone. Our Sam's Club usually sells for under $2.50. Of course that still hurts when it takes at least $50 to fill our Durrango.

Heating oil prices worry me more though. It is going to be a rough winter with high vehicle cas prices as well as home heating fuel prices.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I think ours is around 2.20ish still. I didn't check yesterday. Don't we(New Jersians) get it the cheapest because most of US's gas comes through por elizabeth here in NJ?

I thought it was because we have lower gas taxation than most other states.

[Thordic]

NJ gas is cheaper because a lot of it is refined here in Elizabeth, yup.

Although when 2.69 for regular is "cheaper" I'd hate to see what expensive is.

[MarkM]

I do understand that you have problems relating to the base oil price due to the storm but come on I would love to pay the prices you guys are complaining about. We are currently at $6.25 and at Motorway (Freeway) stations this is as high as $7.00

[Lohman446]

I do understand that you have problems relating to the base oil price due to the storm but come on I would love to pay the prices you guys are complaining about. We are currently at $6.25 and at Motorway (Freeway) stations this is as high as $7.00

You didn't have GM / Firstone / and Standard Oil companies buy and dismantle your mass transport systems in the 50's and 60's either - by the way, executives of said companies were each fined $1 for there part in the illegal activities.

Its a cultural thing... I am whining now because I put 36K miles a year on my car

[Target Practice]

Went to $3.12 yesterday, up from $2.94.

See, the thing I've noticed with California from traveling around the western US, is that one of the main reasons that gas is so expensive here is because the greedy bastards can get away with it. They know that the people of this state will pay $3-4 dollars a gallon indefinately.

We need a revolution.

[MarkM]

You didn't have GM / Firstone / and Standard Oil companies buy and dismantle your mass transport systems in the 50's and 60's either - by the way, executives of said companies were each fined $1 for there part in the illegal activities.

Its a cultural thing... I am whining now because I put 36K miles a year on my car

I really don't undstand how you can equate a transport system dismantling to your high gas prices...it has an added cost granted but how would that translate to my high prices? Actually I do know why we have the high prices it is our taxation...about number 3 in Europe for the highest AFAIK.
What really gets my blood boiling is when companies attempt to justify the prices at the Motorway (Freeway) stations...they are very often very large units on land that was never going to get built on so it is cheap land but they (the companies) say that the cost to get the fuel to these locations is why the prices have to be increased....sorry you are on a Motorway where all the tanker trucks go past on their way to other destinations so how can the cost be increased? BS if ever I heard it plus they charge the silly prices as you don't want to be on a Motorway and run out of fuel so they effectively have a captive audience so they charge what they like.
I was passenger in a van the other week and we had to get diesel, which in general is cheaper but slowly creaping up in price even though our goverment has given taxation breaks to people buying a so called cleaner fuel (cleaner in so far as the newer versions of diesel is cleaner), so we pulled into the gas sation and the Board on the road advertised a good price but half the forecourt was coned off indicating that half the pumps were out of action and guess what the pumps we could get to were all the premium diesel at $.50c a gallon more than the board price...turns out the coned area was actually just what that station did to guide the traffic, all the coned off pumps were working and all had the cheaper fuel, sharp practise or what!

[Hexis]

And here I thought that the $2.59 I filled up my truck with was gawd awful. The bill was over $70. Guess I'm gonna have to get the bike out and start communting to work on that.

[Lohman446]

I equate fuel to Europe being less central to the way of life. You (in general) have built a mass transport system that is the envy of the western world. Your roads I beleive are directly taxed through gas taxes and you would, I assume, consume less fuel in a year than we do - making a smaller pool to tax from.

I would say that the price disparity is set up around the economics of scale, we pay less because of lower taxes (per gallon) because frankly, we use more.

[shartley]

[MarkM]

Actually our road upkeep is alledged to be covered by the taxation on our vehicles, the tax on fuel is straight into the goverments pocket to spend as they see fit...you know how it goes a commitee is formed to look at how the commitee for the committees policy rules are handled via the sub committtee policy section etc etc, plus then they spend some on health care The TV program "Yes Minister" was extremely accurate even though it is a UK program it would still apply to the US and by all accounts the politcians (and Prime Minister at the peak of the show) often were scared by how close to the truth the show came

[Lohman446]

I didn't complain in the mid two's.... but at this point it is going to strongly influence my voting in the next election if our government does not find a way to reign this in. And I am a Republican by nature...

The fact of the matter is its going to come back to "Are you better off than you were eight years ago". Considering current trends in gas prices / inflation / jobs in this area / etc its going to be hard to say yes... and hard to say its not time for a change. I can handle a few things, but everything?? this is just stupid. And yeh, gas prices are like the straw that broke hte camels back - up to this point ok, the government can't really do anything about it... thats over, its time for the government to do something