anyone write there own programs?

[ScatterPlot]

I'm in a C++ class right now, it's not too bad (we're only a few weeks in though), but I can kinda see it getting harder later. Also had a teensie snippet of an introduction to visual Basic in one class, and finally there's the TI-83 plus. Had one since the 8th grade, 6 or so years, and I can write programs in that all day long. Not just real good ones, but some that are so-so, specially given that it was all self-taught and did most during math class

[maxama10]

hmmm so i think the general thought is to start of with c++. How would i go about doing that?

[Glickman]

if you want to get started with robots take a look at pyro (PYthon RObotics). it's a simple way to get into complex robot AI systems. the language used is of course python. there's plenty of simulators and robots avaialable which you can insert the brains that you've written in python into.

thanks, ill definitly look into it. the standard is C language for the competition, but that doesnt mean we cant do a little of both

oh, the url doesnt work, but i think this might be it http://emergent.brynmawr.edu/~dblank/pyro/

i do remember a pretty cool open source game that let you program robots and they do battle on the computer, but alas, the name has excaped me

[Miscue]

thanks, ill definitly look into it. the standard is C language for the competition, but that doesnt mean we cant do a little of both

oh, the url doesnt work, but i think this might be it http://emergent.brynmawr.edu/~dblank/pyro/

i do remember a pretty cool open source game that let you program robots and they do battle on the computer, but alas, the name has excaped me

I'm not sure if you're talking about the same thing as what I'm thinking... but when I was 15 I made a network playable programming game. Basically you had a robot that would fight other robots... and you had to script out an algorithm to control it.

I did stuff like... the robot cannot see behind himself... can't see as far from the sides as in front. It could set detectors to have full vision of an area... or remove enemy detectors... or pick up its own detectors and relocate them. The most powerful weapon was on the robot's back... and since you're blind on your back you have to use those detectors so you can see what you're shooting at with your big gun... stuff like that.

Nobody played it though... I was the only one who understood how to use it.

[MantisMag]

thanks, ill definitly look into it. the standard is C language for the competition, but that doesnt mean we cant do a little of both

oh, the url doesnt work, but i think this might be it http://emergent.brynmawr.edu/~dblank/pyro/

i do remember a pretty cool open source game that let you program robots and they do battle on the computer, but alas, the name has excaped me

oops sorry. that's what i get for doing it from memory and not double checking. i fixed it. the url i was thinking of was http://www.pyrorobotics.org it's either a mirror or simply an alt of the one you found.

miscue - i'll give you that there are other uses for java. i just don't really think of them as being as compelling. i got a little carried away with my rant though when i said that web apps are the only reason. as for C/C++ being unforgiving if you had a scale of languages and their level of flexibility when it comes to what kinds of code you can write and still have it compile and run with, let's say, ada on one side and perl (without strict) on the other, i think we can agree C++ would be more to the ada side. there's also the fact that C strips out a lot of things that might make code more reliable in favor of efficiency and speed of execution. things like bounds checking. whereas other languages will do this for you, if you want C/C++ to do this you have to write it in yourself. so to me it's more about specific design choices that were made when whoever it was decided how a language would parse and compile. i can see what you mean about it being closer to machine level though. i think that's just a result of the choice to make these sacrifices to speed and the giving the programmer control of the how and when and where everything is done.

[maxama10]

okay well sense youre all really smart
i need help with my aim account i lost my password
i dont have the email account i used to sign up with i guess
so it wont email me my pass
and i want to try to use brutus to force my way into my account
how do i do that anyone know? brutus is really confusing.....

[Miscue]

okay well sense youre all really smart
i need help with my aim account i lost my password
i dont have the email account i used to sign up with i guess
so it wont email me my pass
and i want to try to use brutus to force my way into my account
how do i do that anyone know? brutus is really confusing.....

Urm... brute forcing passwords usually doesn't work unless you have access to the password file. Otherwise, you'll get locked out after X number of failed attempts... typically.

[dave p]

okay well sense youre all really smart
i need help with my aim account i lost my password
i dont have the email account i used to sign up with i guess
so it wont email me my pass
and i want to try to use brutus to force my way into my account
how do i do that anyone know? brutus is really confusing.....

i prefer using a methed out marmoset monkey on a teletype and 9600 baud modem for my password cracking needs.

[Miscue]

hmmm so i think the general thought is to start of with c++. How would i go about doing that?

http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc.html

http://www.cygwin.com/

[Glickman]

okay well sense youre all really smart
i need help with my aim account i lost my password
i dont have the email account i used to sign up with i guess
so it wont email me my pass
and i want to try to use brutus to force my way into my account
how do i do that anyone know? brutus is really confusing.....

from what i assume, your password file is held on the aim server.

you aint bruting that

also, so you know, bruting stuff could take anywhere from a few days to years

[maxama10]

okay....lol new account

[dave p]

http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc.html
http://www.cygwin.com/

i just downloaded and installed bloodshed devC++. pretty impressive for free.

[Jonneh]

i just downloaded and installed bloodshed devC++. pretty impressive for free.

It's useable, but pretty buggy. I was using it on my laptop to finish off some C coursework on the train home, and unknown to me, something had gone crazy with devc++ and it was using 100% cpu, and drained 2 hours of battery life in about 6 minutes. That kinda annoyed me.

I think MS released a free beta or something of visual c++ .NET 2005, use that if you can find it, the MS IDEs are a dream to use.

[dave p]

It's useable, but pretty buggy. I was using it on my laptop to finish off some C coursework on the train home, and unknown to me, something had gone crazy with devc++ and it was using 100% cpu, and drained 2 hours of battery life in about 6 minutes. That kinda annoyed me.

I think MS released a free beta or something of visual c++ .NET 2005, use that if you can find it, the MS IDEs are a dream to use.

I have Visual Studio (C++ and VB), Borland C++ and JBuilder at home already. I just wanted to try this so i did and it turns out i like it.I have 2 *nix boxes with tons of dev tools that run from the command line i.e. gcc, g++. At work i have access to enterprise editions of almost any dev tool i want. i was just saying for free i think this devC++ was pretty slick. for anyone wanting to try learning C its one quick download and you are on your way, for free.