define: Ignorant

[Head knight of Ni]

I hate to nitpick, but a swastika was Egyptian first. It represented the sun. The actual word comes from some archaic Sanskrit word.

The actual shape is seen in many cultures. Bhuddists, Nordic, Tuetons, African tribes. The Nazi Swastika was a bastardization of old nordic depictions.

[Target Practice]

I feel so sorry for some people. I mean, the black kid that asked him nicely to take the shirt off and then kicked his *** when he refused - he got suspended, too. How sad.

You're sad that somebody got suspended for a hate crime?

[Jeffy-CanCon]

I hate to nitpick...

Be honest. Don't we all LOVE to nitpick? :)

[tropical_fishy]

Be honest. Don't we all LOVE to nitpick? :)

Absolutely.

[Resurection]

To be up front and honest to all before anyone makes the wrong impressionof me personally, not that I particularly mind if you do, but...

I love to argue. And I mean the debate-like definition of argue. I love to picka topic and tear it apart, makes me energized and keeps me thinking. Not to mention, it helps to force non-conceived view points onto myself and others.

That being said - Of course nit-picking is fun.

I am ashamed of all of you that pointed out the swatztika wasn't tibetian in origin - did NO ONE catch the Robin Williams joke in that? geez.

[Jaan]

OKay, the kid was in school so he has no rights while he's there ...

But this is the US and you have a right to hate who you want for whatever reason you want. If you don't like Democrats you have a right not to hang around them, or guys with long hair, or religious people, or goths or whoever. It's almost refreshing to find someone who can come strait out and say they just don't like a certain group of people. Yes the kid's a looser and if he died the world wouldn't be any worse off, still ... he's probably more honest than most folks.

What you don't have a right to do is to assault people who hold viewpoints contrary to your own, regardless of what those viewpoints are.

[Kai]

When your viewpoint is that you'd like to see me hanged and dragging from the back of a pickup truck, I'd say I'm not in the wrong when I start handing out beatings.


Also, I can't believe you said it was 'refreshing'. lol's abound in this here thread.

[phantomhitman]

Wearing the shirt was wrong not matter how you look at it, everyone agrees on that. Some people are ignorant enough to try to get away with crap like that ESPECIALLY when they are out with friends. Let them walk alone and see what happens.....


A whole other tpoic has spun off between what is right and wrong, definiations were brough into play, constitution was quoted, history lead back to hitler, then to indians/egytians/nordic history. I learn so much from ao

[SCpoloRicker]

Giggity Giggitity!!

[Jaan]

When your viewpoint is that you'd like to see me hanged and dragging from the back of a pickup truck, I'd say I'm not in the wrong when I start handing out beatings.

Where do you draw the line?

Think about what you said for a moment. You believe you're "not in the wrong when I start handing out beatings". What if a black man was wearing a shirt which showed hooded KKK figures hanging from a tree ... would you feel justified beating that man? There are many, many black citizens who have been beaten and killed for far less than that ... and the people who did it felt just as righteous as you do. We MUST protect unpopular speech or the constitution means nothing.

Maybe I'm wrong when I think there is a HUGE line between free speech and physically assaulting another human being.

Also, I can't believe you said it was 'refreshing'. lol's abound in this here thread.

I said it's ALMOST refreshing. There is a part of me who actually likes it when someone is honest regardless of how ignorant they are. It's stupid these days to actually come out and say out loud what is going through your mind, we must all play the little PC dance and pretend these thoughts and feelings don't affect us. For every one simpleton who comes out and says that they don't like black people, there are a hundred people walking around hiding behind politically correct masks who might not even realize they're like that deep down inside. I wish we lived in a society which allows people to express their feelings and thoughts without censure, but we don't.

[Automaggot68]

Your error lies in taking Kai Seriously.
Now you've been marked.
Turn back now

Where do you draw the line?

Think about what you said for a moment. You believe you're "not in the wrong when I start handing out beatings". What if a black man was wearing a shirt which showed hooded KKK figures hanging from a tree ... would you feel justified beating that man? There are many, many black citizens who have been beaten and killed for far less than that ... and the people who did it felt just as righteous as you do. We MUST protect unpopular speech or the constitution means nothing.

Maybe I'm wrong when I think there is a HUGE line between free speech and physically assaulting another human being.

I said it's ALMOST refreshing. There is a part of me who actually likes it when someone is honest regardless of how ignorant they are. It's stupid these days to actually come out and say out loud what is going through your mind, we must all play the little PC dance and pretend these thoughts and feelings don't affect us. For every one simpleton who comes out and says that they don't like black people, there are a hundred people walking around hiding behind politically correct masks who might not even realize they're like that deep down inside. I wish we lived in a society which allows people to express their feelings and thoughts without censure, but we don't.

[seemlessstate]

i wear confederate flags all the time.

im not racist, im just proud to have been born in the south.
like people wear an american flag cause theyre proud to be born in america.

i dont like how people think that the confederate flag stands for racism, because it dosnt.
i know ill never win the argument that its not a racist symbol but to me its not.

and what that kid said is terrible. black people arent "some people" some people is a person you dont share the same views with and if theyre black so be it, but they dont hold those views BECAUSE they are black.

originaly the south was the center of america for pride and refinement and people like that kid who got beat, give it a bad name because hes just a back *** redneck and not what the south originaly stood for.

im not sure ignorant is the word. i think severly ILL informed would be more fitting.

maybe rash and annoying too

[Jeffy-CanCon]

Washington & Jefferson were Virginians. Southerners, and slave-owners. Doesn't get more American than that.

seemlessstate, when you wear a confederate flag, what do you think it represents?

[Kai]

Where do you draw the line?

Think about what you said for a moment. You believe you're "not in the wrong when I start handing out beatings". What if a black man was wearing a shirt which showed hooded KKK figures hanging from a tree ... would you feel justified beating that man?

No, I wouldn't feel justified. Because that shirt would be hilarious.

If the KKK stood for ANYTHING other than hating minorities, that might be different.

But either way, your example is flawed. If a black man wore a shirt with a bunch of Panthers dragging a few white guys from the back of their Pick-Em-Up truck, that would be more akin to the original post. Said black man would also deserve any beatings that come his way.

[SCpoloRicker]

I had a girlfriend in college from AL, and she would constantly try to argue about the Confederate flag...

I stopped arguing after a while.