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  • slade
    Carpe Noctem
    • Apr 2004
    • 3442

    #16
    Originally posted by Glickman
    yes while it does relate to the "happiness" paradox (which is one of my topics i have written down) that you cannot be happy as u try to achieve it
    well, according to the essay i should be writing right now, happiness is achieved by giving up your freedom. Freedom and happiness are entirely incompatible. maybe you should write about that.

    although... what exactly is the happiness paradox?

    Originally posted by Glickman
    one could waste their life searching for a perfect blossom. a pure waste of time.

    yet it would not be a waste of time.
    nah, im pretty sure it would be :P


    Boski - you do not know the meaning of life. you can think you know it. you can believe the meaning of life is something, but you will never know for certain. The only way you will be certain is if you die. then either youre just dead and you dont know anything, or your "spirit" goes to the afterlife where you will realize the purpose of life. although, of course, it will be too late to fulfil that purpose.

    i believe there is no meaning of life. Which is quite reassuring, considering im going to fail this essay :P.

    actually, i believe the purpose of life is either that there is no purpose, or the purpose is to create a better lifeform, to the point where there would be an ultimate lifeform (no, not sonic the hedgehog). The reason death is necessary is to provide room for the next generation; the reason the next generation is necessary is evolution, forms of life can only adapt by creating new forms and mixing genes. forms of life "expire" because, after they have created the next generation they are relatively useless. the ultimate form of life would be able to evolve and adapt itself , not its ofspring. Thus death could happen, but would no longer be necessary. Then, of course, the question would be, what would be the purpose of the ultimate form of life? answer? ...it would have none. kinda depressing, huh?
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    • Rather
      Registered User
      • Nov 2002
      • 757

      #17
      Shrodingers cat?


      Put a cat in a box. Now, leave it in there for an eternity.


      Shrodingers cat is alive but simultaneously the cat is dead.


      I know thats more of a physics experiment but theres some phylosophical aspect to it as well.

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      • SCpoloRicker
        HA HA I'm custom!!1
        • Jan 2004
        • 4375

        #18
        Originally posted by Rather
        Shrodingers cat?


        Put a cat in a box. Now, leave it in there for an eternity.


        Shrodingers cat is alive but simultaneously the cat is dead.


        I know thats more of a physics experiment but theres some phylosophical aspect to it as well.
        What?

        /quite a few, just picked one
        //I can explain the dual-slit array experiment
        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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        • Glickman
          *Insert Witty Phrase*
          • Sep 2003
          • 2673

          #19
          Originally posted by slade
          i believe there is no meaning of life. Which is quite reassuring, considering im going to fail this essay :P.

          actually, i believe the purpose of life is either that there is no purpose, or the purpose is to create a better lifeform, to the point where there would be an ultimate lifeform (no, not sonic the hedgehog). The reason death is necessary is to provide room for the next generation; the reason the next generation is necessary is evolution, forms of life can only adapt by creating new forms and mixing genes. forms of life "expire" because, after they have created the next generation they are relatively useless. the ultimate form of life would be able to evolve and adapt itself , not its ofspring. Thus death could happen, but would no longer be necessary. Then, of course, the question would be, what would be the purpose of the ultimate form of life? answer? ...it would have none. kinda depressing, huh?

          im not "bashing" religion here but hang in with me.



          Why do humans have to find a purpose for everything? The reason for religion in the first place was that so we can say we know what we dont know nor understand. It is because we are scared.

          /3rd person



          that is one of my topics. taken from an essay i wrote 10th grade called "Relgion: Cause we're afraid of the dark"

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          • tropical_fishy
            KART
            • Oct 2004
            • 1017

            #20
            Originally posted by Rather
            Shrodingers cat?


            Put a cat in a box. Now, leave it in there for an eternity.


            Shrodingers cat is alive but simultaneously the cat is dead.


            I know thats more of a physics experiment but theres some phylosophical aspect to it as well.
            Schrodinger's cat isn't really an experiment, sweetie. It's a metaphor for aspects of quantum physics. You put a cat in a sealed box, connected to some complicated contraption holding a toxic chemical. If one atom of said chemical decays, the vial of the chemical will be smashed and the cat killed. Because this is all happening inside a closed box, you can't see if the cat is dead or alive-- thus the cat is dead AND alive, "superpositioned" between two states. Only when you break open the box do you know if the cat is actually dead or actually alive-- and because you opened the box, you affected the outcome of the cat/poison/box experiment. This metaphor is used to explain the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle and a few other things in quantum physics. I'm not seeing the philosophical questions, though.

            To the OP: look up Derrida and Deconstructionist thought. It's pretty interesting.

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            • White_Noise
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              • Jul 2003
              • 1295

              #21
              i would try either:
              Did god create humans, or did humans create god?

              or

              Why morality is just a rational form of selfishness.
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              • Boski51
                SAC OLD BOYS (SOB's)
                • Nov 2004
                • 332

                #22
                Originally posted by slade
                well, according to the essay i should be writing right now, happiness is achieved by giving up your freedom. Freedom and happiness are entirely incompatible. maybe you should write about that.

                although... what exactly is the happiness paradox?


                nah, im pretty sure it would be :P


                Boski - you do not know the meaning of life. you can think you know it. you can believe the meaning of life is something, but you will never know for certain. The only way you will be certain is if you die. then either youre just dead and you dont know anything, or your "spirit" goes to the afterlife where you will realize the purpose of life. although, of course, it will be too late to fulfil that purpose.

                i believe there is no meaning of life. Which is quite reassuring, considering im going to fail this essay :P.

                actually, i believe the purpose of life is either that there is no purpose, or the purpose is to create a better lifeform, to the point where there would be an ultimate lifeform (no, not sonic the hedgehog). The reason death is necessary is to provide room for the next generation; the reason the next generation is necessary is evolution, forms of life can only adapt by creating new forms and mixing genes. forms of life "expire" because, after they have created the next generation they are relatively useless. the ultimate form of life would be able to evolve and adapt itself , not its ofspring. Thus death could happen, but would no longer be necessary. Then, of course, the question would be, what would be the purpose of the ultimate form of life? answer? ...it would have none. kinda depressing, huh?
                If your right, I have wasted my life trying to help others and live by a code of ethics that makes me a better person, husband, father and buiness man. I have wasted 10% of my income helping the poor, feed the homeless and building schools and hospitals in South America and Africa. (don't read this like I am perfect and bosting-I am FAR from that, just trying trying to make a philisophic point.)

                If I am right and your wrong, well then thats is a whole other topic.

                You don't have to fail this project because you are putting forth "philosophy" right now. Just take your thesis from this thread and develop it. Half the fun of this topic is the debate and the working the thoughts thru.

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                • Automaggot68

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Boski51
                  If your right, I have wasted my life trying to help others and live by a code of ethics that makes me a better person, husband, father and buiness man. I have wasted 10% of my income helping the poor, feed the homeless and building schools and hospitals in South America and Africa. (don't read this like I am perfect and bosting-I am FAR from that, just trying trying to make a philisophic point.)

                  If I am right and your wrong, well then thats is a whole other topic.

                  You don't have to fail this project because you are putting forth "philosophy" right now. Just take your thesis from this thread and develop it. Half the fun of this topic is the debate and the working the thoughts thru.

                  Slade is Never correct, Boski, so don't worry about it.

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                  • slade
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 3442

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Glickman
                    Why do humans have to find a purpose for everything? The reason for religion in the first place was that so we can say we know what we dont know nor understand. It is because we are scared.
                    ...was that an argument? because i basically agree with that.

                    Originally posted by tropical_fishy
                    Schrodinger's cat isn't really an experiment, sweetie. It's a metaphor for aspects of quantum physics. You put a cat in a sealed box, connected to some complicated contraption holding a toxic chemical. If one atom of said chemical decays, the vial of the chemical will be smashed and the cat killed. Because this is all happening inside a closed box, you can't see if the cat is dead or alive-- thus the cat is dead AND alive, "superpositioned" between two states. Only when you break open the box do you know if the cat is actually dead or actually alive-- and because you opened the box, you affected the outcome of the cat/poison/box experiment. This metaphor is used to explain the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle and a few other things in quantum physics. I'm not seeing the philosophical questions, though.

                    To the OP: look up Derrida and Deconstructionist thought. It's pretty interesting.
                    somebody call PETA!

                    the first part of that argument though (which im guessing accounts for the "multiverse") i dont agree with, as presented. as i understand it, its essentially stated that human observation is required for something to be true. It may hold true for quantum physics, but the cat is either alive for dead, and the person either knows it or in this case, does not. The metaphor makes sense when applied to the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle though, of course.

                    Originally posted by Boski51
                    If your right, I have wasted my life trying to help others and live by a code of ethics that makes me a better person, husband, father and buiness man. I have wasted 10% of my income helping the poor, feed the homeless and building schools and hospitals in South America and Africa. (don't read this like I am perfect and bosting-I am FAR from that, just trying trying to make a philisophic point.)

                    If I am right and your wrong, well then thats is a whole other topic.
                    well... i dont think you understand completely what i am trying to say. thats one thing i hate about language... and part of the reason im not going into liberal arts :P. What i was saying is there is no divine "purpose" man was created for, nothing we are "supposed" to do. thus we have no purpose, and life has no meaning. When i said if a philosopher spends his life looking for a meaning, and then cannot find one, the time spent was relatively "wasted" as an answer to the question was not found. although in a way, if life has no meaning, then it cannot be "wasted", as there is no purpose it was designed for. I dont entirely understand where you got that i was arguing that morality or charity was a "waste" though, thats not what i think.

                    Originally posted by Automaggot68
                    Slade is Never correct, Boski, so don't worry about it.
                    aww... i feel... hurt... i feel cold...
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                    • Automaggot68

                      #25
                      Originally posted by slade
                      aww... i feel... hurt... i feel cold...

                      Good!
                      MAYBE YOU'LL DIE.


                      This thread is terrible.

                      Maybe I'll redflag it for Thorde conquering?

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                      • Totenkopfver
                        For cowardice is defeat.
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 16

                        #26
                        Originally posted by slade
                        There have been so many philosophers over thousands of years, and still no one knows "The Meaning Of Life". no one knows why we're here, what we're supposed to be doing with our lives. If you spend your life searching for the meaning of life, you will most likely fail, like everyone else. even if you succeed, youve already wasted your life searching for the answer, and thus cannot fulfil your purpose. unless the meaning of life is to become a philosopher. in which case you should buy a lottery ticket, because youre pretty damn lucky.
                        imo there is no meaning of life. which is why no one has found it. seriously why does everyone think there is, like by default it MUST exist?

                        we continue to exist because its instinct. we still, by instinct, pursue happiness (which byproduces offspring and, well, everything in society).

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                        • tropical_fishy
                          KART
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 1017

                          #27
                          I think you're all wrong. Anyone who knows anything knows that the meaning of life is 42.

                          Morans.

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                          • SCpoloRicker
                            HA HA I'm custom!!1
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4375

                            #28
                            Originally posted by tropical_fishy
                            I think you're all wrong. Anyone who knows anything knows that the meaning of life is 42.

                            Morans.
                            OMG I'M PANICKI--- oh. Ok, then. Feel better already.
                            God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                            • slade
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3442

                              #29
                              Originally posted by tropical_fishy
                              I think you're all wrong. Anyone who knows anything knows that the meaning of life is 42.

                              Morans.
                              you know, i was actually waiting for that
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                              • tropical_fishy
                                KART
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 1017

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                                OMG I'M PANICKI--- oh. Ok, then. Feel better already.
                                DON'T PANIC.


                                /towel?
                                //oh no, I'm doing the slashes!

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