Alright, I'm gonna build this thing (PC)

[Brak]

Alright, I've finally decided on what stuff to get. Here is the list of stuff along with a list of stupid questions. This pc will only be used for simple internet surfing and playing the mmorpg ragnarok online, which only requires a 32mb graphics card and 533mhz processor. So this will be a decent, smoothly working computer and nothing crazy. above all else, its gonna be CHEAP

Any recommendations for different parts will be welcomed. But I'm trying to keep this as cheap as possible (that is my first concern) so please dont recommend a 64 bit Athlon processor or a 7800GT graphics card. I would like to get those, but i simply cannot afford it. Any recommendations that would LOWER the price, however, would be awesome.

Case: Xion Solaris
Power Supply: ENERMAX 270W
Motherboard: EPoX EP-8NPA SLI ATX AMD
Hard Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 80GB SATA
Processor: AMD Sempron 3100+
RAM: Corsair ValueSelect 1GB (2x 512MB)
Graphics Card: eVGA Geforce 6600LE 256MB OR JATON Geforce 6600LE 256MB
CD/DVD Drive: SONY IDE DVD-ROM
Floppy Drive: SANSUNG internal
Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster 16 Pre-Amp

Now, for my questions:
-POWER SUPPLY! I'm confounded with all the choices. Does this one have enough power? is it dependable? someone please point me in the right direction here. If this one is ok then thats great, if it isnt, what kind should i get that is still relatively cheap?
-Graphics Card: is there a difference between these two? if there is, which one should i get?
-CD/DVD Drive: is this compatible with my case/motherboard? i have been looking to see if its compatible (same with the floppy drive) with my mobo, but i cannot find anywhere that says it. I'm just going to assume that they are all universal at this point. i hope i am assuming correctly.
-HD: is this dependable? is SATA really that much better?

I'd also like to know about any opinions on any of the stuff that i have selected. I just want everything to be dependable and work smoothly. I know i wont get crazy performance, but as long as it will be stable and will work how i need it to, i'll be happy.

Thanks in advance for all the help guys!

[personman]

270 watts is not going to be enough. You want one thats probably around 350 or up... I'm not exactly sure if thats enough or more than enough but 270 is weak

[sean33]

dude get the N-vidia PCi express 7800 its pricy but do it...really nice

[FooTemps]

I'm still opposed to not getting a 64 bit system, but its your choice. The socket m2 systems are coming out soon so if you skimp now you can always wait for the brand spankin new ultra performance blah stuff. (you can save up! lol)

Power Supply: I'd suggest a 400 watt psu. That would allow more power draining parts like a nice processor, nice graphics card and more. With a 6800, you'll probably want a 350 or 400watt psu for best performance. Keep to Enermax.

Mobo: no epox please. Try and see if you can find a good price motherboard from asus or msi. They will provide better performance/reliability.

HD: i like the choice of HD. The capacity isn't the best but hitachi is good. I'd also say that samsung is a good choice too.

video card: I think you'd be happy if you dropped another like 40 on a 6800 card. The choice of evga is good choice. XFX has some cheaper lower end cards so it'd be easier to afford a 6800 series card too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150130

[RapidTransit]

Sata drives usually have a bigger cahce size because of the increse in bandwidth.

Get a PSU from PC Power and Cooling.

I have a used 6800GT 256MB PCIe version if you want it. I got alot of spare crap. Infact maybe if you want you can buy mine as I have

3500 Winchester
A8N-SLI
1 Gig of PC4000 RAM.
One huge Zalman heatsink.
The only stuff it wont come with is the drives and PSU.
Edit: The case is this in Black http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...03Cavalier%203

[t33kyboy]

dude get the N-vidia PCi express 7800 its pricy but do it...really nice

Try reading the post first before posting.

Other then the powersupply which has been discussed already, the system is more then enough for ragnarok.

[Brak]

Sata drives usually have a bigger cahce size because of the increse in bandwidth.

Get a PSU from PC Power and Cooling.

I have a used 6800GT 256MB PCIe version if you want it. I got alot of spare crap. Infact maybe if you want you can buy mine as I have

3500 Winchester
A8N-SLI
1 Gig of PC4000 RAM.
One huge Zalman heatsink.
The only stuff it wont come with is the drives and PSU.
Edit: The case is this in Black http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...03Cavalier%203

im interested in your PC. check your PMs.

so the general consensus is that i should change the psu and maybe upgrade the graphics card?

[nippinout]

Ditch the soundcard and spend the $19 on Cheetos and Coke.

[hardr0ck68]

get a Vantec PS. If you buy a quality PS you dont need to go nuts on the wattage. The cheaper the PS the more energy is lost to waste heat. This is important for a few reasons, your power bill (if you care) and your box/core temp (important for a stable system and a must have if you wanna overclock) are the most odvious.

The way i tell a quality PS from a crap one is the efficancy rating; many 450 watt systems have terrable efficancy, which is a sigh of poor construction and cheap parts! Since you only list one hard drive and one graphics card i would say you only need a 300 watt PS.

My 350 vantec powers a OCed processor, graphics card and ram (all with increased voltages), 3 hard drives, an optical drive, and 5 fans! Most people would look at all that crap and say OMG you need like a 500 watt PS; but all that would do is make my computer run even hotter!! The probably the biggest reason to buy a quality PS is because when they die (and cheapones die much more often!) they can take stuff like your processor, ram, graphics card and so on....

[FooTemps]

get a Vantec PS. If you buy a quality PS you dont need to go nuts on the wattage. The cheaper the PS the more energy is lost to waste heat. This is important for a few reasons, your power bill (if you care) and your box/core temp (important for a stable system and a must have if you wanna overclock) are the most odvious.

The way i tell a quality PS from a crap one is the efficancy rating; many 450 watt systems have terrable efficancy, which is a sigh of poor construction and cheap parts! Since you only list one hard drive and one graphics card i would say you only need a 300 watt PS.

My 350 vantec powers a OCed processor, graphics card and ram (all with increased voltages), 3 hard drives, an optical drive, and 5 fans! Most people would look at all that crap and say OMG you need like a 500 watt PS; but all that would do is make my computer run even hotter!! The probably the biggest reason to buy a quality PS is because when they die (and cheapones die much more often!) they can take stuff like your processor, ram, graphics card and so on....

Not always right. You should look at the numbers more closely than just the wattage. A 600watt PC Power & Cooling PSU would kill your PSU 10 times over.

[RapidTransit]

Not to mention AMPs are very important. What are you OCing? With 350 Watts sounds like your running a pretty old system otherwise I can see corupted data in your future and reboots at full load

[Kyle.Kimber]

Ok, I've just read a couple of things which piss me off in this thread.........

I think that you should step up the power supply to about 350. Go Ati with the Video, its a bit more expensive, but its worth it. But what concerns me the most is that you should really buy brands like ASUS or Gigabyte. They are more reliable and can handle things like OC better. I don't know much about the Sempron chips, but AMD chips are very delicate and will break easily, so be careful. AMD IS WORTH IT. I OC my 2400+ MP's and they work fine, just don't do it if you aren't familiar with it. Looking at the specs, you got a pretty good setup. I hope it works out for you. Oh, and don't think about going 64 bit because eventhough it is AWESOME and a good deal, you have to invest in the 64 bit version of Windows to fully utilize it. And that will run you another $150. Also get DDR2 memory, because for most brands, when you upgrade the memory, you can't drop in some other RAM because it won't be compatible. DDR 2 is worth it, because you can get the same performance, for a lot less megabytes.

[FooTemps]

Ok, I've just read a couple of things which piss me off in this thread.........

I think that you should step up the power supply to about 350. Go Ati with the Video, its a bit more expensive, but its worth it. But what concerns me the most is that you should really buy brands like ASUS or Gigabyte. They are more reliable and can handle things like OC better. I don't know much about the Sempron chips, but AMD chips are very delicate and will break easily, so be careful. AMD IS WORTH IT. I OC my 2400+ MP's and they work fine, just don't do it if you aren't familiar with it. Looking at the specs, you got a pretty good setup. I hope it works out for you. Oh, and don't think about going 64 bit because eventhough it is AWESOME and a good deal, you have to invest in the 64 bit version of Windows to fully utilize it. And that will run you another $150. Also get DDR2 memory, because for most brands, when you upgrade the memory, you can't drop in some other RAM because it won't be compatible. DDR 2 is worth it, because you can get the same performance, for a lot less megabytes.

Okay, you're oficially on crack.

First, we already discussed the power supply issue. He shouldn't just go higher wattage, he should go higher quality.

For video, the ATI/Nvidia issue is a non-issue now these days. They just keep trumping one another with each new model and that's the bottom line. For the price range, he can go for either a 6800series or 800 gto. They'll be pretty damn similar.

AND GIGABYTE? WTFUX? (we are still talking about video cards right?) No, don't trust gigabyte, go for EVGA or XFX.

Also, DDR2!?!? Dude, AMD platforms don't even USE DDR2. ONLY INTEL UNTIL THE M2 SOCKET COMES OUT!

64 bit useless without windows 64bit? no. That's like saying dual core is useless until programs start utillizing dual core. (which is totally not true since dual core and 64 bit can still process more than a 32 bit processor on 32 bit platforms)

[kosmo]

Wow. Just wow.

Im not to make fun of people who dont know about computers. Until they start trying to give people advice on what to do, and it comes out like a crack head selling a car. Kyle, if you have no clue what you are talking about, dont bother. If he actually followed your advice he wouldnt even have a working computer, let alone a good one.

[Mango]

No.