x-men 3 discussion (spoilers)

[Remington]

Am I the only one that stayed after the credits and saw what happened? Seemed to me like it was a pretty important part of the series; maybe it's just me.

[m-a-r-k-7]

Since when are chess pieces made of metal?

(Ya, you know what I'm talking about)

[BD_Paintball]

Since when are chess pieces made of metal?

(Ya, you know what I'm talking about)

i know what your talking about. i saw it and i thought it was a good movie. i didnt read any of the comics but i thought it was a pretty good movie. i would buy it when it comes out on dvd

[RoadDawg]

Poorly done yes, I thought she was a he.

I liked the movie, I started collecting the comic at the dark phoneix saga, so I was a little bummed.

I think they should have used the extinction agenda, rumor has it that this should be the last movie, this would have been a better way to kill off so many.

If you really want to be pissed of about something, wolverine is 5'3" in the comics, hugh jackman is 6'2" and he dont say bub enough.

I still think Danzig (if he could act) would have made a perfect Wolverine. He's short, hairy and well built.

This is the last movie Singer will do. He says not to rule out a spin off on Wolverine (so they can ruin him again) and/or Professor X.

[SCpoloRicker]

I still think Danzig (if he could act) would have made a perfect Wolverine. He's short, hairy and well built.

This is the last movie Singer will do. He says not to rule out a spin off on Wolverine (so they can ruin him again) and/or Professor X.

Uh, the reason its horrible is that Ratner made it. Singer jumped ship to do Supe Returns. On top of that, Rothman at Fox butchered the schedule to get it out before Supe becuase he's bitter that Singer jumped when Fox wouldn't guarantee the same crew.

/and Supe is cooler material
//Danzig would be a pretty cool Wolverine, but I'm alright with Jackman
//nerd

[Grey Goose]

Yeah, Wolverine is short, but let's see... Joe Pesci... or Hugh Jackman? I'll take Hugh. If I had my druthers, I think the Xtinction Agenda or Days of Future Past (as they hinted in the opening sequence) would have rocked.

I actually thought Arclight was well done. Psylocke was disappointing as hell, though.

[CaptaiN_JacK]

I'm curious, and way too lazy to research it myself, but what's the extinction agenda or whatever you guys keep talking about? Sounds like its pretty cool..

I've never read the comics, so I really liked the movie, but it was pretty badly done. There are way too many obvious 1-liners and not enough character development (like with Angel, the shockwave girl, Pheonix, etc). I wanted to see more mutant powers, period. Did we ever see Xaviers powers in X3? Other powers were used in a couple scenes or less, like Pyro and the Iceman. The Magneto+Pyro flaming car duo in the last scene was pretty lame, imo, considering Magneto has the power to throw shrapnel at the soldiers and wipe them out in less than a minute, instead of throwing some flaming cars at them. Overall I think they downplayed a lot of mutant powers and when they did utilize them it was is ****ty ways.

[Grey Goose]

The X-tinction Agenda was probably the last great Chris Claremont story. It basically reunited the scattered mutants of X-Men, X-Factor, & New Mutants and pitted them against a villain (Cameron Hodge) and a country (Genosha) which practiced mutant persecution. Characters were kidnapped, brainwashed, killed, etc, etc. Stunning artwork by Jim Lee made this storyline a bit better than it otherwise would have been; but still a good, broad (x-over wise) plot.

Days of Future Past was a story line of future X-Men Kitty Pryde transferring her psyche back into her younger self to prevent a future of Sentinel domination, concentration camps, extermination, and maiming of mutants. Very good, but maybe too brutal for mainstream.

I always liked Kitty Pryde, very underused character. Considering the girl could walk through anything, then phase your heart out of your body, she gets very little respect.

[Grey Goose]

Read this. Someone on another forum posted it. Very thought provoking.

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Lastly, you mostly missed that this movie is about being a homosexual. Angel cuts off his wings as a child so that his father doesn't see, because he doesn't want to be different. As he grows up, he hides what makes him special. Angel's father creates a cure for Angel's condition, but Angel refuses it, takes off his bondage gear, spreads his wings, and soars out over the city of San Francisco.

So, I ask you, how is Brett Ratner a hack when he can make a more open, successful action blockbuster about homosexuality than Brian Singer and Joel Schumacher? (I am pretty sure that Batman and Robin is about having a cabana boy.)

[ScatterPlot]

That's a bit of a stretch... the SF thing is interesting, but the whole "bondage gear" thing seemed to me more like it would be annoying to hold the wings in such a tight position for so long. More of a convenience than a bondage. People wear briefs instead of boxers sometimes cause they sorta hold you together more. Sports bras do the same thing. So does that mean if I start wearing boxers all the sudden I'm gay? Plus SF is an ideal place for the setting- locales. He didn't want to upset his DAD, not the population. He was embarrassed about the wings cause his dad hated mutants- which I guess could be thought to represent gays, but it could also represent women, blacks, hispanics, mentally/physically handicapped... any minority. Same could be said about reformists in the US revolution, or Renaissance, or anything where something was typically "taboo'd", either rightly or wrongly.

[Grey Goose]

I think the author threw in the bondage gear comment to be facetious.

I also think it's dead on.

Brett Ratner, in an interview:
"And then there's Rogue, who can't have contact with humans, you would understand why she would consider taking it. I think it has a lot of contemporary relevance. I think it's something that is an issue that a lot of people deal with. Alienation, prejudice and I think that each person is going to feel differently about it. If you offered gays an opportunity to get a shot and they won't be gay anymore, some gays will be like, "Oh, I'm happy being gay. I wanna be gay." Some people would be like, "I suffered my whole life... okay, make me straight." If they could."

Interesting choice of examples? Aren't Ratner and McKellen both gay? I definitely think Ratner pulled a very slick fast one.

[thecavemankevin]

rogue didnt get the cure, the little kid was just hidding in the closet untill they were finished doing it

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ROFL

the whole gay thing i was noticing that while watching the movie. I tried not to think to much about it, but i did notice it.

THE GOOD: Beast and especially when he was kicking some arse. Kitty, cute girl, glad to see her being used in this movie.

Never brought Jubilee in, I effing hated her. What a lame character.

THE BAD

[SCpoloRicker]

Please, please don't compliment Ratner. He makes my brain hurt. And Singer is gay, not Ratner. Ratner brags about his wimmins all the time at conventions and what-not.

I really think this one is a stretch.

[ScatterPlot]

Hey it did show at the end Magneto getting some of his powers back with the little moving chess piece. And I agree- where was Nightcrawler??? He pwnd.

[m-a-r-k-7]

THE GOOD: Beast and especially when he was kicking some arse. Kitty, cute girl, glad to see her being used in this movie.

They could have used kitty sooooo much more through, same way with Colossus.



I played the game to find out what happend to nightcrawler, and he leaves because he doesn't approve of all the violance, and that kid from X-2 was haunting him. Don't get eh game, it sucked.