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  • magmanl337
    Do you want a banana?
    • Jul 2002
    • 936

    #1

    An idea to solve our oil problems.

    This has probably either been thought of already, or won't work, but I just woke up and too tired to look. Anyways, here is my idea to remove the World's dependency on natural oil, atleast for automobiles. In order for this to work, all new cars would have to be made, and very slowly over time would be introduced. But like I said, most likely this will not work, but here it goes:

    I was thinking on my "thinkin' chair (a.k.a. The Oval Office)" when I thought about the uses of a spool valve outside of paintball. Then it hit me. Could a spool valve be used as a piston to turn a crank shaft and axle and in turn make a car move? If it were to work, we wouldn't need gas tanks, but compressed air tanks. The good news that if this does work, people could buy air compressors for a couple grand and fill up their cars themselves at home (though it would take a while.) Maybe a built in air compressor into the car would solve that? Maybe make a hybrid and throw a battery inside the car to operate that motor to run the air compressor, to run the car. Or, since alot of the combustion engine would be gone since the lack of necessity of parts, maybe a windfan that operates a generator could go under the hood to power the air compressor (Or maybe store the energy in a battery cell and perhaps hook that battery up to your house at night to get a few minutes or hours of energy for your house.)

    The only issue I can think of with this idea is if the spool valves, though they would be bigger in this case, would not be able to put enough force onto the crank shaft to turn the axle? I think that can be over come, just depending on what kind of solenoids you could find (I'm sure there are very large ones with higher operating pressure.) Or what about air leaks? Since car seals are water tight and not always air tight, how hard would it be to keep it from leaking? The other issue with this idea is how long the tank would last, and how unstable would it be? Filling up would be a little more complicated then a gas pump, but can be learned easily from anyone. People could also very easily change pressures in their cars to get different horse power and speeds out of their cars, police would have a fit. Also not much torque would be able to be produced from the spool valves, but maybe this problem can be fixed with higher pressures.

    The good news is if this does work, even though it's probably already been done, is how easy construction would be. There would be less parts inside the car, and less to go wrong.
    Parts would also be very cheap, o-rings being maybe $3-4 for bigger o-rings for the spool valves. Cars would also be lighter and be able to travel further, more efficiently, and safer (less weight means less braking distance, making less accidents happen). And also the paintball community can always throw in a ramping board to make our cars faster.

    So what do you guys think of this idea? I know it's probably already be thought of though. Does anyone know if this has been thought of or a similar idea? Please don't flame me too much if it's already been done, just trying to contribute to the community and help solve the bigger issues at hand.


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  • Jonno06
    AKA Jon-no wang
    • Jan 2002
    • 4392

    #2
    i think its a good idea. goodjob

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    • maxama10
      Take off every zig!
      • Sep 2004
      • 1497

      #3
      ingenious! design it and patent it. youll make billions

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      • Pacifist_Farmer
        Registered User
        • Aug 2003
        • 740

        #4
        TANSTAAFL

        Thats all I need to say.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #5
          And the air compressor is powered by? Gas or electricity

          And we get electricity? For the most part by burning of fossil fuels.

          So.. at best its a feel good solution.
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • maxama10
            Take off every zig!
            • Sep 2004
            • 1497

            #6
            Then we need more nuclear and hydro plants. Surely with the technology of today a Nuclear plant would be almost as safe as a coal fired plant?

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            • magmanl337
              Do you want a banana?
              • Jul 2002
              • 936

              #7
              Originally posted by Lohman446
              And the air compressor is powered by? Gas or electricity

              And we get electricity? For the most part by burning of fossil fuels.

              So.. at best its a feel good solution.
              By a fan under the hood, as the car is driven the fan spins, turning a turbine that powers a motor that powers an air compressor. This would not give the car all of the air it needs to operate, a big tank of air would also be inside of it. The fan would only assist in operation of the spool valves.


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              • Skittle
                Insert clever phrase here
                • May 2002
                • 305

                #8
                Skittle- Your partner in crime.

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #9
                  Originally posted by magmanl337
                  By a fan under the hood, as the car is driven the fan spins, turning a turbine that powers a motor that powers an air compressor. This would not give the car all of the air it needs to operate, a big tank of air would also be inside of it. The fan would only assist in operation of the spool valves.
                  It takes more energy to create energy than is gained - hence why we dont have a perpetual motion machine
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • gimp
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 2368

                    #10
                    Originally posted by maxama10
                    Then we need more nuclear and hydro plants. Surely with the technology of today a Nuclear plant would be almost as safe as a coal fired plant?

                    Nuke plants are a lot safer, and better for the environment. People just get scared when they hear the word nuclear because they don't know anything about how it actually works. If I could get a nuclear powered car I'd be all over that.

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                    • JT_10111
                      Registered User
                      • May 2006
                      • 171

                      #11
                      Watch out, SP will be on this idea like a fat boy on a cupcake.

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                      • Pyroboy597
                        We need more room for titl
                        • May 2004
                        • 518

                        #12
                        The car could use gasoline to start, and the power of the wheels rolling can generate the electricity which at a certain point will kick in to start the spool valve/compressor process. That way, gas will only be used for the first few miles or at certain speeds until there is enough power being generated by the motion of the car to create a self-sustained air powered car.

                        OR

                        We could bend the rules of physics and make all roads go downhill
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                        • Cow hunter
                          300fps=204.54mph
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 1521

                          #13
                          i think its a good idea, but it needs refining.

                          my idea, run the world off bio-diesel. its already been done (the original diesel engine ran on peanut oil) its safe, its clean, and it smells like french fries!

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                          • BeaverEater
                            25thID - back in hawaii
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1536

                            #14
                            you can convert your current diesel to run bio anyways. also dump ethanol, it takes too much energy. your losing about 20% your mpg's by using it and it also takes 1.2 gallons of gas to make 1 gallon of ethanol.


                            I just want this stuff gone, super low prices

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                            • ScatterPlot
                              Not pop, it's all Coke
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 1960

                              #15
                              I actually think that this idea has been posted here on AO. Maybe someone less lazy than I could find it?
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