Question for Army, edweird, devildog, etc. . . .

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

Ha found the replacement


BFG3000 baby for those kill em all types

[FooTemps]

BFG3000 baby for those kill em all types

lawl.

Does that mean all special forces should get gravity guns?

[txaggie08]

.besides, there's a reason the AF seperated from the Army

Its reason for splitting, and the onyl roll it was needed for as a seperate entity was SAC. Guess what, SAC isnt needed.

[warpspyder]

Pretty soon, we'll have the best technology sure, but the enemy will have such an advantage in numbers, that our tech advantage will be far outweighed.

Mass production is the F-16's MO. The US government (when it's needed to) has shown the ability to mass a large aerial combat force on short notice. We have the technology and the ability to do it, now we just need a "credible" threat.

Someone in the pentagon gets spooked by something, and you'll see our numbers start to grow. Keep in mind the US military knows far more about what other country's are doing then we could ever possibly speculate. I'm sure if there was reason to be concerned they'd already be looking into it

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

we still have more planes then china anyways. Remember Davis-Monthan Air Force base "the Boneyard"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/xplanes/boneyard.html

costs about a dollar a day to run but saves the governement something like 14 million dollars a year in replacment parts

[Steelrat]

we still have more planes then china anyways. Remember Davis-Monthan Air Force base "the Boneyard"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/xplanes/boneyard.html

costs about a dollar a day to run but saves the governement something like 14 million dollars a year in replacment parts

We'd wipe the floor with the Chinese AF. The days of our AF being at a numerical disadvantage ended with the cold war. Forget the boneyard, we wouldn't even need to use it.

Air combat is not all about numbers and dogfighting. No one really has the the support our air force does, including AWACS, JSTARS, Rivet Joints, etc etc, as well as our tanker fleet. Plus, you have to figure in the constant cruise missle strikes on Chinese air assets, B-2 JDAM strikes, and so on. I'd be much more worried about their air defenses than their air force.

[bleachit]

I'd be much more worried about their air defenses than their air force.

AAAAAANNNDDDD thats why we need our stealth technology.

[Steelrat]

AAAAAANNNDDDD thats why we need our stealth technology.

Thats ONE of the reasons

[Recon by Fire]

Yes Marines are capable of fighting on the air, land and sea. .... Remember when the army tried their luck with it in WWII. The Army itself is not equiped to deal with beach landings anymore. Third reason granted this doesn't happen anymore but Marines are stationed on naval vessels as added protection/ and a downed pilot "Force"

The downside of not being reconized as a Force is that Marine Force Recon and Snipers are not allowed to take place in the SOC (the special force command, or whatever I forgot)

The Army is also a land, sea, air orginization! They have more aircraft than the Air Force and more shipsctually than the Navy! Now most Army units do not train for maritime operations, but we certainly sure did. But yes, the Army has done away for the most part as a beach landing force. "Tried their luck in WWII"? Seems to me D-Day was rather successful! Army also does downed aviator missions, again we were part of an aviation brigade and this was a major mission for us.

There has also been recent changes and I do believe that USMC Force Recon, (not sure about FAST) and such fall under SOC (Special Operations Command) now or soon will.

[Caffiend]

Its reason for splitting, and the onyl roll it was needed for as a seperate entity was SAC. Guess what, SAC isnt needed.

I'm guessing when you say SAC, you mean Strategic Air Command and if that's what you mean, your right, SAC hasn't been around since the late 80's/early 90's (I'm guessing, a bit before my time.)

AAAAAANNNDDDD thats why we need our stealth technology.

Thats ONE of the reasons

And another reason would be it's freaking COOL!

[Caffiend]

The Army is also a land, sea, air orginization! They have more aircraft than the Air Force and more shipsctually than the Navy!

I find that hard to believe, care to share where you got those facts?

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

I find that hard to believe, care to share where you got those facts?

Also when in the last 2 years has the army be capable of beach landings last time I check they where only able to cross rivers not oceans.

But its nice to hear that they let Force Recon in and its about time also they been target painters to long.

And those worried about the Marine Corp taking up defense budget ha only about 20 billion a year which is not even a quarter of the defense budget.

And I'm thanking god this hunk of junk is the first to get replaced

Good Idea on Paper, Bad Idea in Reality.

Funny note was talking to some Army bubba's in the bar tonight and they hate the Marine Corps for the fact all we do is break **** and leave. LOL

[pennywise]

They have more aircraft than the Air Force

I don't think so. Do you know how many different types of airframes are in the Air Force's inventory? How many types of helos does the Army have--because that's the only airframe that they have.

[rkjunior303]

We'd wipe the floor with the Chinese AF. The days of our AF being at a numerical disadvantage ended with the cold war. Forget the boneyard, we wouldn't even need to use it.

Air combat is not all about numbers and dogfighting. No one really has the the support our air force does, including AWACS, JSTARS, Rivet Joints, etc etc, as well as our tanker fleet. Plus, you have to figure in the constant cruise missle strikes on Chinese air assets, B-2 JDAM strikes, and so on. I'd be much more worried about their air defenses than their air force.

Hell, all we'd need is ONE of those AEGIS cruisers in the pacific.....

[Recon by Fire]

Say what you will, and sorry I don't happen to have a nifty graph to post for you. Not that you would suddenly believe me anyway. But the Army has a ton or aircraft (mostly rotary wing of course) and ships (most would be considered more boats than ships likely but they still have some large cargo ships also). The Army is a big orginization with lots of toys!

Just as in comparison, when the Japanese sank the USS Arizona in Pearl Harbor, who were among the majority of the casualties aboard the ship? Navy or Marines? Neither, it was Army! They simply have more; more men, more equipment, etc...


And that crappy XM8 rifle plan was scrapped long ago too.