K-9 Unit and searching house

[nulam]

Also, Hipster, you are spreading some seriously flawed interpretations of search and seizure law. Refusing to consent to a search is NEVER enough to raise a reasonable suspicion or create probable cause. (the exception being a Terry stop) Also, you may limit the scope of a search and revoke consent to search at any time. And, last, nothing you do "triggers" the "plain view" doctrine; if it is in plain view, it's admissible.

[hipster]

Yes NULAM you have some blackand white valid points which on paper work

however in my miss guided youth while supporting myself at a state school ( where I was in criminal justice and an A -B student ) with a "side Buisness" I learned three times mind you about the realistics of a simple may search you car question ( I never got the just say yes and 9- out of 10 its quick they barely look then leave through my head)

and at residences in two state I relearned those lessons , I also at the time thought as you to a point and when nothing was uncovered , found and or noticed upon the first one of these searches I took what I thought was the right action to protect and defend my rights.
Armed with my fresh in school insite , the books the officers themselves use and a good amount of ill gotten easily made money I set off
even with a high priced lawer certain prcticalites and loop holes exist for officers to do the things they do, in the name of probable cause
what I offer is facts from both knowlage and being face to face with reality

Resistance is truely futile
as far as you this is the letter of law goes sit down and watch a reality cop show for a week with a pad write down every thing they do "wrong" or "illegally do " and get away with.
you will see reality is not quite as tidey as written in a book

think as you like do as you see fit and good luck to you all but don't say I did give you a heads up

[Steelrat]

This is the worst discussion of legal matters that I have ever read.

[hipster]

by the by there is a book published for use in school country wide on police feild opperation in which i states the the declination of a search
of a vehicle which was pulled over for suspicious reasons is in itself considered probable cause
or a place of residence when dispatched due to disturbance , noise , domestic or routine inquiries belonging to suspicious behavior is also reason for probable cause

[wad04]

this doesn't change the fact that you're totally wrong still.

[Lohman446]

After a brief glimpse at Nulams profile and past posts (Occupation: Attorney) I have a feeling I am going to beleive him far more than Hipster.

That being said my lawyer has always told me to offer the responding officers a drink and then ask for a lawyer. Give them minimal information to secure a scene (weapon location) Do not consent to search but if they insist on entering so be it. Be polite but don't say anything else

[Pickle]

Nulam is right.

That is the biggest I can get the period