/scratching my head

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    /scratching my head

    Why is it that sellers expect the buyer to cover the cost of paypal?


    Paypal offers a free service if you want it. Of course you are limited as to how much you can accept and the type of payments you can accept, but its FREE!

    So IF you have decided that its in your best intrest to use the pay services available by them, how in the world can you honestly expect the buyer to pay the fees that YOU decided were acceptable?

    That kind of stuff really cracks me up. Right up with that other post not along ago about feedback from other forums and the don't ship first thing......

    /end rant
  • going_home
    Hebrews 13:8

    • Dec 2004
    • 8343

    #2
    Paypal 3 percent to sellers

    Originally posted by punkncat
    Why is it that sellers expect the buyer to cover the cost of paypal?


    Paypal offers a free service if you want it. Of course you are limited as to how much you can accept and the type of payments you can accept, but its FREE!

    So IF you have decided that its in your best intrest to use the pay services available by them, how in the world can you honestly expect the buyer to pay the fees that YOU decided were acceptable?

    That kind of stuff really cracks me up. Right up with that other post not along ago about feedback from other forums and the don't ship first thing......

    /end rant
    Paypal charges sellers 3 percent of the transaction amount.
    Tp buyers its free.

    Comment

    • punkncat
      One foot less
      • Feb 2003
      • 5841

      #3
      Originally posted by going_home
      Paypal charges sellers 3 percent of the transaction amount.
      Tp buyers its free.

      I realize this. What I am curious about is how seller, here and elsewhere, always post that the buyer covers fees.

      The buyer didn't make the seller upgrade the account.

      Comment

      • going_home
        Hebrews 13:8

        • Dec 2004
        • 8343

        #4
        Originally posted by punkncat
        I realize this. What I am curious about is how seller, here and elsewhere, always post that the buyer covers fees.

        The buyer didn't make the seller upgrade the account.
        I think what most are saying is pay with a money order or if you use Paypal you pay
        for the luxury of using Paypal.
        I recently sold a marker on Ebay for 825.00 shipped.
        Ebay got about 18.00 and Paypal got about 18.00.
        With shipping added I ended up with 775.00.
        Whew.

        Comment

        • stop whining buy a mag
          I know what I'm doing!
          • Sep 2004
          • 414

          #5
          Buyers should not have to pay the 3%. I have no problem taking the charge if it's going to assure me protection and a quick transaction. Most people buy their stuff and want it in a week. If you send your money order out the next day, you're still going to have to wait another 4 days or so unless you send it faster or live very close to the person.

          To make up for the Ebay fees, I usually round up on the insurance price. It's usually $12-$14 to ship a marker. I usually put $20 as the shipping price to make up for the $5 Ebay fee. This is also why I keep a large pile of boxes in my attic. No matter what, I can always find the right box to send something out in. You don't lose too much unless you sell something above $1,000.

          Comment

          • going_home
            Hebrews 13:8

            • Dec 2004
            • 8343

            #6
            UPS >>>

            Originally posted by stop whining buy a mag
            Buyers should not have to pay the 3%. I have no problem taking the charge if it's going to assure me protection and a quick transaction. Most people buy their stuff and want it in a week. If you send your money order out the next day, you're still going to have to wait another 4 days or so unless you send it faster or live very close to the person.

            To make up for the Ebay fees, I usually round up on the insurance price. It's usually $12-$14 to ship a marker. I usually put $20 as the shipping price to make up for the $5 Ebay fee. This is also why I keep a large pile of boxes in my attic. No matter what, I can always find the right box to send something out in. You don't lose too much unless you sell something above $1,000.
            USPS only insures to 500.00.
            UPS will insure to whatever amount you want but its not cheap.
            Thats why I went UPS and 35.00 shipped/insured on this one :

            http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESE%3AIT&rd=1

            Comment

            • Arstron
              fusionowners.org

              • Mar 2005
              • 2347

              #7
              No Surcharges. Under Visa, MasterCard, Discover and American Express regulations and the laws of several states, including California, merchants may not charge a fee to the buyer for accepting credit card payments (often called a "surcharge"). You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as payment. This restriction does not prevent you from imposing a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge (in other words, the handling fee for transactions paid through PayPal may not be higher than the handling fee for transactions paid through other payment methods).
              Taken from the paypal User Agreement.

              Comment

              • NoForts4Me
                Old. Geek. Paintballer.
                • Jun 2003
                • 282

                #8
                I always factor Paypal fees, and usually shipping, into the price I ask for when selling items on a forum. If I agree to sell below my asking price, I just eat the fee. I figure the Paypal fee is the price you have to pay for getting the money quick and having some protection.
                AO Feedback
                PB Nation Feedback

                Comment

                • BeaverEater
                  25thID - back in hawaii
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1536

                  #9
                  ya some sellers ask that the buyer pays the 3% but it also states that if they charge this they are not covered under sellers protection. As a buyer i would never pay the fee if asked to.


                  I just want this stuff gone, super low prices

                  Comment

                  • geekwarrior
                    MIA
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2581

                    #10
                    Because people lowball the buyers, and its a good excuse both parties to meet in the middle.
                    I normally dont care unless the item is 100 or more. Really, 3% on 10 dollars? i'n not that poor.

                    The bigger question is how many pay taxes on any of these items?

                    Comment

                    • deathstalker
                      Fnord!
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 1115

                      #11
                      Originally posted by geekwarrior
                      The bigger question is how many pay taxes on any of these items?
                      The vast majority of private sales fail to qualify as "income".

                      I do not conduct business with anyone not willing to pay THEIR PayPal fees. If it's going to cost money to sell something, the seller should figure that into their asking price. Don't forget that those of us who have upgraded their accounts sometimes pay A LOT more than %3 to PayPal for cheaper items. I've had PayPal fees push %10. Did I cry and whine and make someone else pay MY fees? No, I already accounted for my own costs, including what it will cost to package and ship the item.

                      And if you're selling something on eBay and want a certain amount of money after everything has been taken care of, familiarize yourself with using a reserve price. And yes, that costs extra so don't to add that to YOUR list of fees.

                      Need a new sig pic? Click here!

                      Comment

                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #12
                        OMG.. it costs money to do business... no way. I cannot, per user agreement, add credit card fees at a business, I don't know about paypal but if I recall its in your paypal user agreement not to add fees (however, not offering a discount if paypal is used is different).

                        Its ridiculous to me, list the price, quit trying to sound low by adding extras to your OMG SUPERZ price...

                        I loose money on every paypal transaction I take, and some of them are just a convenience for others (like Team AO fees). Its part of the game and being able to take all forms of payment.
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

                        Comment

                        • geekwarrior
                          MIA
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2581

                          #13
                          Originally posted by deathstalker
                          The vast majority of private sales fail to qualify as "income".
                          a sale here or there doesnt, but what if you're constantly buying/selling? I don't know, it was a question more than a statement...just wondering if anybody knew

                          Comment

                          • Recon by Fire
                            Enimo Et Fide
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1706

                            #14
                            As noted already; charging a buyer the PP fees is against the terms of use. I never pay anyone the PP fees and never expect a buyer to pay my PP fees. It is party of doing business.

                            But if you really want to see somethin ridiculous, try dealing with Brits over ebay, etc... They always expect you to accept a poor echnage rate, demand you pay their bank charges, along with any other fees they may incur! Would you like me to pay your light bill too buddy? WTH, Brits and their taxation mentallity! I get them back once in awhile when they inquire if I will sell somthing to them in the UK, I reply wioth a bunch of extra fees and piss them off, LOL.

                            AGD X-Mag #XT00187
                            AGD Tac-One
                            WGP 2003
                            Marker Pics

                            Comment

                            • Grey Goose
                              yeah, it's me.
                              • May 2004
                              • 168

                              #15
                              Back in the old days when I was trading heavily, PayPal drove me crazy.

                              Try selling 2 or 3 $500 rigs a week and gettin hit with PayPal fees.

                              Of course then you can do the old "discount for cash buyers" gig.

                              You are correct though; if a seller decides they are willing to accept PayPal, they should either go the non-Paypal discount route or eat the fees. I went through a period where I didn't offer to take PayPal, but if someone inquired I would let them know they could use it if they covered the fees.

                              I eventually quit using PayPal because of the scammers.

                              I totally agree with what deathstalker posted; a good seller will take everything into account and avoid the negativity of an "upsell" transaction.
                              ----------------------------
                              My Feedback

                              Comment

                              Working...