problem with parents and a car.

[oneworld]

wellll ive been in the market for a new car for awhile.. and today i drove a 97 talon tsi... looks brand new..not a rice burner.. just a clean talon tsi, the thing is the engine is pretty tuned, and it is fast, BUT heres where my problem comes into play, they told me i could get it, and i was planning on buying it.. they saw the old owner of it while they were walking, and he said there boy (18 now i belive) got alot of tickets in it.. so they told me absolutley not now... i mean, sure its fast, and my parents know this.. but honestly i have just as much of a chance of getting picked up in my honda.. idc how fast they are.. my car will do 20 over the speedlimit or w/e he got pulled over for. i mean a car is a car, no matter how fast.. you just have to respect the car and not rod it, then i would be in ok shape... but they know i will rod it, there just a 100% sure i will(dont get me wrong im sure i will every now and then).. but..do you think they may just be over looking this a little bit?

[BeaverEater]

well if the power is there most people will tend to use it more. I hate to say it but they are kinda right about the speeding in it part. But i dont think they shouldn't allow you to get it. If you get tickets in it its your own problem.

[kruger]

"But i dont think they shouldn't allow you to get it. If you get tickets in it its your own problem."

I dont agree with this statement. Its not his own problem. Its theirs. If you get a ticket, then the insurance will shoot thru the roof. Young boys are the main reason that insurance costs are so high. Dont get me wrong, I was young once, and I liked hotroddin' and showing out. I was lucky, I grew up in a slightly more forgiving era. In today's world, you have to pay for everything. Every decision you make, or dont make costs you money. Everything you fail to do, costs. Everything that you do do costs you money. It is my experience, and from seeing and talking with others, that if you have the power, you use the power. Its just your nature. You cant help it. My daughter wants a 06 Mustang GT. That is so NOT gonna happen. The kind of speed and power that is availble today is really for the experienced driver. I sugest that you go with the parents on this one. I know that it would be really kool to have a sporty car, but with a "milder" car, you have more money to invest in the all imortant stereo. They use less gas, and the insurance is less also. It also makes points with mom and dad. Gives the illusion that you are starting to think responsibly. They will trust your judgment in other things. And, you will be less inclined to show out to people who you think that you need to impress. And, to be honest, those people could really care less about you, or your car. Impress people with who you are, not what you own. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Lohman446]

Car matters. I routinely drive over the speed limit. I make sure that I follow, or am followed, by another car - generally a younger person in a sportier car. I drive a four door Taurus. Guess what gets pulled over?

When my daughter turns 16 she is getting a car as a birthday present - that way I have full say in what it is.

[9868Classic]

The Second Gen TSI's suffer from crankwalk anyway. You don't need it/want the headache associated with it.

However...on another note.

Some parents not all mind you, need to do alot better job when purchasing a car for the sole intention of giving it to their kids to drive. A brand new 07 Mustang GT/Cobra is not the car for them. Actually for that matter, neither is anything with a V8 unless it comes attached to a pick-up truck. And then take a step back and look at your kid and ask yourself if he is actually responsible enough to drive a car at all?

Your what? 16? 17? You have plenty of time to get a fast car on your own. As a matter of fact you have pretty much your whole life, and if you want a TSI then make sure you got one heck of a job to support the breaks.(I own two of these BTW)

[Altimas]

Yeah my parents gave me a card for my 16th birthday. So I got a job worked 50 hours a week all summer long and then I bought what I wanted. I even paid my insurance. If you want the car, buy it yourself and pay your own insurance. I have a younger brother and my Mom and Dad bought him a car and its hilarious to see how they treat him so different from me. I had no curfew because I worked paid my own bills and even helped my mom and dad with some of the Utilities when it was needed. My brother has to call my mom or dad everytime he drives somewhere to let them know where he is.

[Cow hunter]

so, if you wanted to buy say.... this
and someone told your parents that X person got many tickets in it, do you think iti would be the same situation?

[oneworld]

oookk.. to answer a few questions.. i am 16.. this car would make lucky number 13.. (so its not a first car gotta have it by yesterday type of thing) i pay my own insurance on my honda which is 79 bucks, the talon will be 84... i think i can spring for the extra $5.. also ive had DSM before...2 eclipses actually.. and my honda breaks more then any of those did.. and ive been paying every little repair.. actually i was just out driving last night and i think the alternator went out of it.. so now im gonna have to pay to get that fixed before i trade it in at all.





came up with another excuse from my parents tho:

its a turbo.. its gonna break in a week,i talked to my mechanic... he said hes had it in there alot.. but he finally fixed the problem..(my dad saw it there alot) so my dad says no.. not be cause of the speed now.. its because somethings wrong with it or gonna be wrong with it in a week. and he(mechanic) said it would be a fine daily driver exept it gets about 12 MPG ..


and one more thing they threw at me

my mom hates the guy i wanna buy from.. he owns his own little lot here close to my house..and she said he ripped me off before..i bought a 1998 ford f150... very nice with alot done to it. from him for 6400 so i drove that for awhile.. and it got like 9mpg. and at that time i wasnt working enough to play that gas every week.. so my mom works at another dealership.. i quite larger one.. and he only sells all the new mustangs and chargers.. plus the 07 dodge trucks...and i cant afford those so i dont buy from him.. one day he happened to take a honda in on trade.. unfortunatly i was there when it came in.. i sorta liked it.. it was a 1997 honda accord(165k miles . and he said it booked for almost the same as my 1998 f150.. my mom didnt argue she new they wouldnt treat her bad.. i insisted on seing where they came up with that.. a few months later i was gonna trade it in on a 2004 pointiac sunfire.. they were willing to give me 3k for my car.. and i owe 4500 on it yet.. and my mom blames the guy with the tallon for ripping me off on the pickup.

[Indignant]

....16 and this is your 13th car?

[punkncat]

Your parents are more than likely trying to look out for your best intrests.

Consider it like this....it a car that you are more likely to try and sport around in rather than drive. Evidenced by the fact that the previous owner did so, resulting in many tickets. As also was previously mentioned it will gain more attention from the police....another result evidenced above.

With you flying around in it being sporty (whether you say you will or not) you are more likely to get hurt. Your parents don't want that.

The previous owner probably drove the doors off it as well, so you will more than likely have reliability issues...its not new either. And its owned by a guy that you had a previous bad experiance with, or at least your parents think so.

Leave it be. There will be other cars at later times.

[slade]

the type of car does matter for tickets, really. think about it from the perspective of a police officer, you would be more likely to pull over a more powerful car, because its potentially more dangerous . my cousin has a honda he dumped $20K into, and he was pulled over for rolling through a stop sign. then again, if youre going 41 in a 20 or weaving through traffic on the highway at 90 MPH, youre still going to get pulled over.

[Al_Steel]

Punkncat is right on, it's been ragged and will give ya nothing but problems. Also, sport cars do get more cop attention.. Trust me... I know. There will be PLENTY of other cars.

BTW did I read that correctly 16yo and 13 cars? I'm 38yo and I don't think I've owned that many cars in my lifetime. You get a car every other week or something?

Oh these two links are your friend:

Kelly Blue Book

and

Edmunds Buyers Guide

I'd hit those sites before you make your 14th purchase.

[skife]

Punkncat is right on, it's been ragged and will give ya nothing but problems. Also, sport cars do get more cop attention.. Trust me... I know. There will be PLENTY of other cars.

BTW did I read that correctly 16yo and 13 cars? I'm 38yo and I don't think I've owned that many cars in my lifetime. You get a car every other week or something?

Oh these two links are your friend:

Kelly Blue Book

and

Edmunds Buyers Guide

I'd hit those sites before you make your 14th purchase.

KBB sucks for value, they always over value cars.
NADA is closer.

[jenarelJAM]

Stick or auto?
See this is kinda a deciding factor, because if its auto, theres really no point in sportin' with it, cause people who drive sticks(at least around here) look down on auto drivers. Its kinda a superiority complex. Actually we laugh at the people who shoot off out of the school lot, with their farting mufflers, and the engine revving up to 7k, and we know its an automatic...

I'm 17, and roll around in my mom's 1996 civic coupe, dark green with paint chipping off the hood. Auto. 165k miles or so. The only problem it has is getting up to 65 mph when the onramp is uphill. Perfect starter car from a parent's perspective.

Honestly, I have very little sympathy towards you, even though I am a fellow adolescent. You just became eligible to drive, you're already publicly admitting you speed(regularly), and you seem to have locked yourself in a chain of bad deals. You've had 13frickin' cars since you've started driving...you need to find something a bit less sporty and a bit more reliable.

Just my .02

[slade]

KBB sucks for value, they always over value cars.
NADA is closer.

well KBB lists dealer price. ive seen dealers list a vehicle well over KBB price. private sales are well below KBB.