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  • beam
    The end.
    • May 2001
    • 2036

    #1

    Another shooting

    Four Girls Killed, Six Others Hospitalized; Cops Say Gunman Killed Himself


    [I was going on a rant and decided to just hold my tongue.]

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  • Altimas
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 909

    #2
    Wow...This is horrifying. When will the madness stop?
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    • grEnAlEins
      dazed and confused
      • Jul 2002
      • 2864

      #3
      Originally posted by beam
      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2055177.shtml

      [I was going on a rant and decided to just hold my tongue.]

      I was just about to post this in my thread...
      Yeah, WTF is going on? This is the thord or fourth one in two weeks...
      bless, support, and never forget the troops
      God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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      • beam
        The end.
        • May 2001
        • 2036

        #4
        You know...I really REALLY hope this spawns a new protocol for dealing with crap like this.

        Basically, if you take a hostage, we get to kill you at the first chance. No more of this negotiate and try to save your life bullcrap.

        Take the cuffs off the police and let them find new ways to do their jobs...protect the innocent.

        If modern mindset was that if you take a hostage, you will die, at least the rules would be in place from the start.

        I know I'm speaking out of anger, so if this was thought out, it would probably not be the best move, but I'd rather let my emotions take over on this one.
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        • geekwarrior
          MIA
          • Oct 2005
          • 2581

          #5
          Originally posted by beam
          You know...I really REALLY hope this spawns a new protocol for dealing with crap like this.

          Basically, if you take a hostage, we get to kill you at the first chance. No more of this negotiate and try to save your life bullcrap.

          Take the cuffs off the police and let them find new ways to do their jobs...protect the innocent.

          If modern mindset was that if you take a hostage, you will die, at least the rules would be in place from the start.

          I know I'm speaking out of anger, so if this was thought out, it would probably not be the best move, but I'd rather let my emotions take over on this one.
          i think all of the people who did this sort of thing have died, so I dont think thats going to help much

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          • grEnAlEins
            dazed and confused
            • Jul 2002
            • 2864

            #6
            Originally posted by geekwarrior
            i think all of the people who did this sort of thing have died, so I dont think thats going to help much
            Not to mention there are most likely not mentally stable... so cognition of this policy would be all but absent, if not entirely. I doubt the policy like that would help much...
            bless, support, and never forget the troops
            God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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            • LinearGoose
              The Goose is Loose!
              • Feb 2006
              • 580

              #7
              Man im starting to get scared to go to school. Today I really couldnt focus because I kept on thinking what if it happen at my school.

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              • grEnAlEins
                dazed and confused
                • Jul 2002
                • 2864

                #8
                Originally posted by LinearGoose
                Man im starting to get scared to go to school. Today I really couldnt focus because I kept on thinking what if it happen at my school.
                It is scary. It can, indeed does, happen anywhere, seemingly without provocation. That's the part that scares me, that someone can just snap and become capable of somthing like this
                bless, support, and never forget the troops
                God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                • -Tab
                  FKA whydoineedausername
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1929

                  #9
                  Originally posted by beam

                  I know I'm speaking out of anger, so if this was thought out, it would probably not be the best move, but I'd rather let my emotions take over on this one.

                  I know what you mean. I watched a show on "Bum Hunting" last night. These teenagers would find homeless people and beat them with baseball bats(often to death), light them on fire, etcetera.

                  It's been a long time since I've been that angry. I would undoubtedly not have a problem doing that same thing, and more, to those teenagers.
                  The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves. 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.


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                  • grEnAlEins
                    dazed and confused
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2864

                    #10
                    Originally posted by -Tab
                    I watched a show on "Bum Hunting" last night. These teenagers would find homeless people and beat them with baseball bats(often to death), light them on fire, etcetera.
                    Are you serious? That is effed up... I've never heard of that.
                    EDIT: Googled it, and it is widespread. That is just sick
                    bless, support, and never forget the troops
                    God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                    • -Tab
                      FKA whydoineedausername
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1929

                      #11
                      Originally posted by grEnAlEins
                      Are you serious? That is effed up... I've never heard of that.

                      Either have I, but I'm starting a new sport - Bum Hunters Hunting. It's goin' worldwide, baby.
                      The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves. 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.


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                      • grEnAlEins
                        dazed and confused
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2864

                        #12
                        Originally posted by -Tab
                        Either have I, but I'm starting a new sport - Bum Hunters Hunting. It's goin' worldwide, baby.
                        I'm game
                        bless, support, and never forget the troops
                        God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                        • Pickle
                          Carrier of the big stick!
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 476

                          #13
                          Random violence is nothing new to our society or many others. It just so happens that there are a spurt of them right now.

                          As far as changing policies, yes that can and has happened. After Columbine a lot of agencies enacted or looked at new policies and tactics regarding "active shooters", meaning going against bad guys that are actively shooting up schools etc.
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                          • Steelrat
                            I meant to...uh, nevermind
                            • May 2003
                            • 5375

                            #14
                            Originally posted by beam
                            You know...I really REALLY hope this spawns a new protocol for dealing with crap like this.

                            Basically, if you take a hostage, we get to kill you at the first chance. No more of this negotiate and try to save your life bullcrap.

                            Take the cuffs off the police and let them find new ways to do their jobs...protect the innocent.

                            If modern mindset was that if you take a hostage, you will die, at least the rules would be in place from the start.

                            I know I'm speaking out of anger, so if this was thought out, it would probably not be the best move, but I'd rather let my emotions take over on this one.
                            In a lot of cases, it IS the new protocol. Just look at what happened in Canada recently, the first police on scene charged in and engaged the suspect. The guy in Pennsylvania apparently opened fire when he saw the police preparing to enter the building.

                            It's a tough position for law enforcement to be in, and they will always be endlessly second-guessed. The police in Colorado will catch hell for storming the room where the guy was holding two girls hostage, even though they believed they had no choice. It's just the nature of our society. God help us if we ever face a Beslan-type scenario.


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                            • Steelrat
                              I meant to...uh, nevermind
                              • May 2003
                              • 5375

                              #15
                              Oh, and prepare to see the anti-gun crowd coming on strong. I'm a gun owner, and I love shooting, but frankly they're going to have some good ammunition. From what I've seen, all the guns used in the recent incidents have been legally owned (though, in the case of colorado, it was owned by his brother). Kinda damages the "criminals down legally own guns" argument.


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