car damage and /anger

[Lohman446]

Sugar in the gas tank doesn't do anything. You should have just drove it and laughed it off.

What? I guess I better reinstall these injector rails and sets of injectors I have removed from vehicles that have had substances (presumably sugar) in the fuel...

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What? I guess I better reinstall these injector rails and sets of injectors I have removed from vehicles that have had substances (presumably sugar) in the fuel...

[random guess]maybe sugar in the fuel damages fuel injectors, and therefore has no effect on carburated vehicles?[/random guess]

[kosmo]

Back when I was a construction worker in MN, this idiot foreman thought he could park a green Geo with Packers stickers all over the thing on a job and leave it unattended, right next to a big purple cement mixer with Vikings stickers all over it, the week after the Vikes destroyed the homopackers. When he came back, the Geo was sitting on the roof of the garage. Stupid cheeseheads. He had to call in the company crane from another job site, and they lifted it off the roof with chains and bent the frame. Serves him right.

[thecavemankevin]

Sugar in the gas tank doesn't do anything. You should have just drove it and laughed it off.

since when?

[Lohman446]

[random guess]maybe sugar in the fuel damages fuel injectors, and therefore has no effect on carburated vehicles?[/random guess]

I doubt its good for them And I'm sure it causes issues with fuel filters

[thecavemankevin]

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Instead, sugar poured into a car's gas tank stays intact. While sugar could still cause harm if it reached the engine (but in the same way sand would, by virtue of its being a granular contaminant, not because the sugar would turn into a syrup), even that potential harm is generally prevented by filtration. At the end of the pickup tube in the gas tank is a "sock" that blocks solid materials, so the fuel gets through, but precious little that's not liquid does. Further up the line is the fuel filter, and what may have got through the "sock" does not get past it.

Yet, even though the sugar will not reach the engine in either syrup or solid state, it can clog the fuel filter or the fuel injectors, a circumstance which could stop a car. A little sugar in the tank could be dealt with by no more than having to change the fuel filter a few times, but a heavier sugaring would require the gas tank be removed from the car and dumped out. Tom and Ray Magliozzi (the hosts of radio's Car Talk) say it's not a big job for a good mechanic to drop the tank and clean it out; the process would likely cost the car's owner somewhere between $100 and $200. Though $100 to $200 is an appreciable sum, it is a far cry from the wished-for outcome of forcing the victim to have to replace the engine or scrap the car.

[Lohman446]

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With due regard to some writer who once worked on a "real engine" I have personally seen the damage that sugar can do to a fuel injection system. They are partially right, the one time I may have umm, known of sugar contamination only managed to clog the fuel filter. Though is it going to destroy an engine? No, I've only ever seen it influence the injection system.

[thecavemankevin]

With due regard to some writer who once worked on a "real engine" I have personally seen the damage that sugar can do to a fuel injection system. They are partially right, the one time I may have umm, known of sugar contamination only managed to clog the fuel filter. Though is it going to destroy an engine? No, I've only ever seen it influence the injection system.

thus we've proven pyro to be a nincumpoop (sp? if one even exists).

[PyRo]

Sugar doesn't dissolve in gasoline. So besides clogging a fuel filter what is it going to do?

[thecavemankevin]

Sugar doesn't dissolve in gasoline. So besides clogging a fuel filter what is it going to do?

see below

What? I guess I better reinstall these injector rails and sets of injectors I have removed from vehicles that have had substances (presumably sugar) in the fuel...

[Lohman446]

Sugar doesn't dissolve in gasoline. So besides clogging a fuel filter what is it going to do?

Glog injector and injector rails - a clogged fuel filter not addressed and a strainer issue will burn out fuel pumps

[PyRo]

Glog injector and injector rails - a clogged fuel filter not addressed and a strainer issue will burn out fuel pumps

Ok, so the fuel filter was clogged and they ignored it. Resultingly they turning a $30 repair into a $200 one. So I will give you sugar + idiocy = engine damage

[Lohman446]

Ok, so the fuel filter was clogged and they ignored it. Resultingly they turning a $30 repair into a $200 one. So I will give you sugar + idiocy = engine damage

Hehe, I actually never said engine damage. I did say fuel injection system :P Not trying to be a jerk, really.

[tribalman]

haha! i figured after i dropped my car at the shop my troubles would end with this issue(see first post), boy was i wrong! first i was told, "middle of next week" by the dude, seeing as how i droped the car off on a wednesday this isn't too bad, a little long, but whatever. i call on monday the 30th just to see whats up and see if by some chance the car was fixed in the 3-5 days i was told orginally. aparently parts were on back order and they just got there, now it will be finished at the end of the week and they said they would keep in touch. wtheck is crossing my mind. figure i'd call on friday the 3rd just to see if the car will be finished on saturday because 2 weeks without a car is really annoying and i need transport. turns out the car was finished and they were just finishing up washing it and i could pick it up in an hour.
hrm.... shouldn't they have called about that? oh well, what ever, i have my car back!

this is the part that really angers me more than the damage!
i didn't have time to really look over the car, i had to be at work in 5 minutes so off i went. next morning i looked at the car. the center brake light's shroud was missing! i even left in the trunk, next to the wiper motor, which did get reinstalled. there are little plugs that hold the wiper onto the window and they are on the outside. when they were installed the shop took what looks like vice-grips to hold them in place as the bolt/screw was tightened from the inside, marring it up pretty good. there are four. also, when they removed the duct tape and bag that i had put over the window to keep the rain out, it was raining the night of the accident and the day after, they just pulled the tape off, giving no care to remove any resin or parts of duct tape left behind. no biggie, except they also waxed over it! they also had to remove the quarter panel to repaint cause it was also scrached along with being dented very well (13 inches long, about 3 wide), and after they repainted it, they didn't buff it so the whole thing doesn't match the rest of the car and it's pretty coarse.
this had really been a crappy 2 weeks for me. just no luck. the name of the place i took my car too is carstar if you want to try and avoid them. i was even reccomened them very highly by a few people.

[thecavemankevin]

take it back to them now, accept it back in no less than original shape from preaccident. If you are going through an insurance company then call up the adjuster and tell him it is not satisfactory and you will be taking it back. You will need a rental car again too.

I use to work in the replacement rental business and we dealt primarily with insurance replacements like your current situation. So i've rented to the same customers multiple times for the same accident until the body shop got it right.