Getting caught drinking on campus (damn u facebook!)

[Glickman]

plus the fact that someone already ratted....damage b done

they were taken down, but ill scrounge some up.

expecially the ones with us wearing the "coors light box crown"



i was doing just fine today until i got a care package of cookies from my rents.
talk about making you feel guilty

[grEnAlEins]

talk about making you feel guilty

hahaha that's funny

[maxama10]

Here in the small town of Lovelock, NV (pop. 3000 or so) last year there were two seperate parties and some kids posted pictures on myspace. Got half the kids from every sports team kicked off.

/I went
//Didnt drink
///Good luck, that sucks man

[chip08]

If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't lie. The obviously have the pictures as evidence. If you admit to making a mistake, and you wish you had thought better before your actions then that will be pretty much what they want to hear anything. If you lie, they have a reason to get you in more trouble. On the other hand, if you don't, then they will push some sort of punishment on you, probably probation of some sort on campus. Most likely, if you don't lie, the college will retain you and use this as an opportunity to educate you (at least they think they are educating you) because that is a university's job. They know people make mistakes, and it probably wont end up on your record. That being said, if you go in there and act mature, take responsibility for your actions and such, they will look much higher on you than if you try to pull "The Corona bottle was full of lemonade."

Just my 2 cents...

[PumpPlayer]

Here's the issue you need to understand:

Once it's been reported, no matter what, they HAVE to do something to you.
If they don't, they're asking for a lawsuit.

This whole issue is driven by money - that's the bottom line.


If a school administration finds out that someone has been drinking and they do nothing, all it takes is for that kid to go drink again, hurt himself or someone else and then the school can be sued for negligence. Heck, even the first time they can be sued if conditions are right (like drinking in the dorms).

They're looking to do one thing and one thing only and that is to minimize their legal liability.


Depending on the school, expect personal or group counceling, completion of an anti-alcohol course, attendance to various off-campus events such as AA meetings or anything else you could think of that might "rehabilitate" you from your problem.

It's all baloney, of course, but that's not the point. The point is that the school has to cover their arse. The only thing you can do is to play along with the game. And it doesn't matter that you would never sue the school. The point is that you might. Now you know why people make lawyer jokes.

Blame the system, hate the school admin but you gotta do what you gotta do.


Again, good luck.




And for the rest of your life you will know not to talk or joke about drinking, even if you do it responsibly and enjoy it. You'll be careful about who has a camera and what they're pointing it at and you will never allow yourself to be percieved as someone who drinks more than "socially/occasionally" and even then, not until you're 21. Our society cannot understand that alcohol can be consumed responsibly. Those of us that choose to drink must do so carefully, even those of us that are of age. Even still, we are never safe.

[Glickman]

And for the rest of your life you will know not to talk or joke about drinking, even if you do it responsibly and enjoy it. You'll be careful about who has a camera and what they're pointing it at and you will never allow yourself to be percieved as someone who drinks more than "socially/occasionally" and even then, not until you're 21. Our society cannot understand that alcohol can be consumed responsibly. Those of us that choose to drink must do so carefully, even those of us that are of age. Even still, we are never safe.

amen

it makes sense that my college should need to uphold the laws of the state, but i hope they care more about $30,000 x 5 than being being a douche

[MANN]

30k X5 where are you at??

amen

it makes sense that my college should need to uphold the laws of the state, but i hope they care more about $30,000 x 5 than being being a douche

[Glickman]

30k X5 where are you at??

3K x 5 years

my bad. they nailed me from 3 weeks ago, so i hadnt stopped till now

[Thordic]

Deny everything. Always.

Granted the "discipline" at my college when I went there was fairly lax compared to what I see today (and it was only 8 years ago, jeez), but always deny. We got caught red-handed drinking twice, but we just refused to open the door for the RA until we could hide the evidence. The room stank of booze and most of the people there were obviously drunk, but since they didn't see any open containers, all they got us with was "Suspiscion of alcohol".

Another time we got caught hurling a pumpkin out a 5-th floor window with an M80 in it. It exploded in midair over the tennis courts and basically made a huge mess. For that one we had to go see the head of Residence Life and plead our case. We just denied everything. We didn't have fireworks, and wouldn't know where to get them if we did want them. We had no clue where to get a pumpkin, and why would we have one in the dorms in the first place? We would never throw anything out of a 5th floor window, especially something as dangerous as an M80. Of course we were aware that if someone been on the tennis courts at time (2AM) they could have been injured, thats why we would NEVER do such a thing.

They booted us out of the dorms for a week, which wasn't an issue since our friends just let us in anyway (NJIT dorms were like prisons, you had to go through two metal gates to get inside). And there was no mark on our permanant record or anything like that. Which isn't bad considering an M80 is easily considered an explosive/weapon and could land you in some serious trouble even in those pre-terrorism paranoia days.

Say you picked up the bottle for the picture, you weren't drinking, you thought it would make a funny picture but you realize it was a dumb thing to do, blah blah blah. Admit to nothing. Unless you go to a super strict college, you should be fine.

[Sir_Brass]

Okay man, here's the straight deal from a guy who's been a student justice for quite a few years.

First off, let me tell you of how it works at my school so you can have some perspective:

Our judicial board is an appealate board only. When a student recieves a disciplinary sanction (aka, punishment), he/she is given the right to appeal the verdict and/or the sanction. When they do this they generally appeal to the judicial board. Our judicial board is also weighed in favor of the student, with 2 student justices, a student chief justice, and 2 faculty/staff justices. We operate on fundamental fairness. And in the past we have slapped down the SCHOOL. We also don't make rulings, but recommendations to the dean or chancellor (who the decision goes to depends on who the university investigator is....as the final decision goes to the next person up). This measure is CYA for those of us on the board to make sure that we don't get personally sued since we only make a non-binding recommendation (as in, the dean or chancellor is not bound to actually listen to us....technically). However, it is a rare thing for our recommendation to NOT be followed.

Now, this is where I come from.

You, bud, screwed up. First off, you were drinking at an age when you shouldn't be drinking. Wait till you get to be 21 and go drink at a pub....legally, or at a friend's house. Second, you drank in the dorms. This is a NO NO! The risk of getting caught is way high, especially since people like to take pictures when others are drinking.

Now to your predicament. Your best bet is to show humility, humbleness, and repentance. This is what they're looking for in you. Most universities discipline and punish in order to teach you a lesson. If you show that you have already learned that lesson since getting caught, then they're more apt to go easy on you. As a justice, when a student comes before the board, pleads in-violation and is just appealing his/her level of sanction what I look for is "did they learn the lesson, and is their breech of conduct such that it would be fair to all if we recommend the sanction be reduced?" sometimes this is 'yes', other times it is 'no' depending on the situation. I've sat on a good number of hearings, and a simple alcohol violation pales to some of them. The university doesn't really bring down the hammer on the first alcohol violation ANYWAY unless there are other extenuating circumstances, and then the hammer is dropped due to those things, though the alcohol may have exaserbated the situation.

So, in short, take my advice: fess up, show repentance, and be totally humble when you face the 'court' and bring your case in the tone of asking for mercy. This is your best shot at getting a slap on the wrist. B/c I can tell you this: you're not going to be found innocent. They have solid proof of you drinking on campus. Don't contest this AT ALL. Also, don't be combative or defensive, as this'll put them more on edge and more apt to punish you harder since you showed what they would see as a rebellious attitude.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

I have to ask my fellow AOers aged 35+, have American schools always been like this? this is the second thread i have seen in the past while (different forums).

[Sir_Brass]

Drinking has been a staple of the American university experience for most college students for a great many years.

[tropical_fishy]

I have to ask my fellow AOers aged 35+, have American schools always been like this? this is the second thread i have seen in the past while (different forums).

Was the other thread mine?

I think my school is trying to clamp down on drinking because Princeton Review BLASTED us this year (18 on "Most hard liquor" list and 20 on "most beer", which is amazing for a school this size...)

But yeah, when we got "busted" for our beer pong table, no one really cared all that much. We were given X amount of time to turn it in, and my roommate went to the guy and was like, "it's not a beer pong table, it's a 'table extender' for when we have people over for dinner."

Lol.

[Glickman]

I have to ask my fellow AOers aged 35+, have American schools always been like this? this is the second thread i have seen in the past while (different forums).

you mean underage drinking?

not too long ago the age was 18 and drinking was completely normal on college campus.

down to earth parents know drinking happens. hell, i get beer money from my aunt, who only says to make sure i stay safe.

there IS a difference between having 2 beers at a friends dorm room watching football and chugging shots for the sake of getting drunk at a party.

personally i'm a fan of the former, and have no desire (anymore) for the latter.

i know our college turned completely dry no matter what age you are after a mattress sandwich off of the 5th floor

[BD_Paintball]

that sucks. i havent heard of any people at my school get in trouble for pics of drinking in the dorms. my brother has alot of pics of him and friends drinking in the dorms. if they have pics of you with alcohol then i dont think you can lie about not drinking. i think its lame that they are going to get you in trouble for drinking. so many under age kids drink in school. i wrote a paper for a saftey class and part of the paper was to interview your parents about their past alcohol use. and to answer the question about underage drinking in the past is it was there but not as much b/c the drinking age was 18. but if you want to drink in your room, one word "canoflauge". take a pop can cut the bottom and the top off, and cut it down the side. slide over beer and you are set. my brother and his friends walk around the dorms with beers and no one can tell its a beer if you make a good one. PM me for more details on how to make it